Byler Is Endgame - Blog Posts
let the light in
little byers-wheeler family.
lying beside you here in the dark, feeling your heartbeat with mine.
I am having fun 😂
that part in s4 when Will sings a lil bit of never ending story,,, what if him and babygirl have a duet like dustin and suzie in s5
They looked a little too excited for their friends breaking up
Hive mind byler nation :)
Ehheheeheh
Also I made some stupid videos from ST scenes
Vid 1
(Also why can you only add one vid 😭 it’s fine whatever I’ll add the rest in a sec too)
Second post
Third post
Hahah I would and have done the same but normally it’s objects I see like two cars
Funny thing you mentioned flannel…
Live ok photo from nearest Starbucks from my house
(Ignore my crusty nails)
i was walking outside and i saw an elderly man wearing a yellow and blue flannel shirt. i giggled and said ‘byler reference?’ and he heard me and looked at me weird. i just kept giggling.
someone help me
I need to be honest: I really hope Byler is endgame because Byler makes me hate Mike less.
This is a long rant, and this whole post is gonna sound full of vitriol, but BEAR WITH ME, I HAVE A POINT.
I hate Mike's character so much, the show does him so dirty, S3 was THE WORST and S4 was only better because of the Byler implications, because otherwise he still sucks
Allow me to rant after the cut before you guys jump onto me, ok?
He used to be the leader of the party, and in S3 he does NOTHING, and seasons 3 and 4 seem to go out of their way to show DUSTIN (my pookie, this kid is the GOAT, no one say NUTHIN' bout him) as the leader instead of Mike, which like, makes Mike kinda disappear into Mileven? He goes from leader of the party to El's only safe haven, and that bothers me so freaking much. It's a disservice to both their characters IMO. El gets stuck being the only one who can do anything to save the day, and Mike gets stuck being the only one who can be there for her. I don't think it is a coincidence that they get separated for most of S4, because I think if they were together the whole time, the plot would stop moving. Mileven in canon feels like being in a relationship just because you don't know what you would do if both of you weren't together, not because you actually like each other.
Now if Byler IS endgame, everything feels more cohesive. Mike is an asshole, yes, but not because that's who he is - he is an asshole because things are changing and he is hurting his best friend and he is really bothered by that but he doesn't know how to fix it. He avoids saying stuff not because he doesn't want to, but because it feels wrong and he doesn't understand how. He didn't want to play D&D with Will in S3, and he said it was because he was maturing, but as soon as he enters high school, he finds a D&D club and is super dedicated towards it. Lucas has his big game and Mike doesn't even think to negotiate with Eddie to move the last session around so they could all watch the game AND have the finale of the campaign - clearly D&D is, still, a huge priority for him, despite him being technically older and more mature now. Yes, he is still a dick for replacing Lucas at the last session, but this assholery puts his previous assholery ("Did you think we would be in my basement playing games the rest of our lives?") into a new perspective. He STILL cares about D&D, it is STILL super important for him. So why was he doing all that in S3? Makes you question, and that's good! Also very interesting how this priority only comes back once El is not around anymore. It's like he is back to his little bitchy S2 self, maybe trying to get back to the way he was back then.
S3 Mike is overprotective of El because, according to him, he "loves her and doesn't want to lose her". But, if my interpretation of Canon!Mileven is correct, he might be actually scared of what not being with her means for him. If Dustin is more of a party leader than he is, if he and Will are not on good terms, and he doesn't play D&D anymore, that means he's not Leader Of The Party Mike, nor Mike The DM, nor Will's Best Friend Mike. That leaves him as Protector of El Mike. So, he's overprotective, because that's who he's supposed to be, now, right? That's what having a girlfriend means, right? Lucas and Max are always together, and they are dating. So Mike should be there with her and for her, always. If El breaks up with him, who is he then?
So he fights to get her back. And since he's fighting to get her back, that probably means he loves her, right? When someone breaks up with you, and you still want them, no, NEED them back, that means you love them, right?
But then she leaves, and he can'tdo anything about it. And Will leaves, too. And suddenly, he's not missing the time he spent with El. Something feels wrong, and he's still a little bitch to everyone around him, but it's not because of EL. He talks to El, he writes her letters, they keep in touch. And he doesn't miss her. He should, because she's his girlfriend, and he's supposed to be missing her, so he complains about not being able to call her on the phone, but he doesn't try to solve that problem like he did in S2 when he didn't even know for sure if El was alive. S2 Mike would move the Earth to be able to talk to El. S4 Mike thinks just getting on a plane to see her in the summer is enough. A letter every once in a while instead of a phone call is enough. "From Mike." is enough. S4 Mike didn't implode while not having El, like he thought he would, so things change. He's not as protective anymore because he doesn't need to be. The last year was enough proof that he could still be who he is without El, so he has another angle to self-reflect.
If Byler is endgame, then S4 Mike being an asshole to El after she defended herself in the rink is less of him just being a shitty boyfriend and is instead him being mad at himself for neglecting his friends and his own self to take care of her when she truly doesn't need him, even without her powers - and then taking it out on El. He understands that he is pissed, he is prompted to make amends (iirc he didn't go talk to El out of his own volition, he just did it after he saw how Will was reacting to how bad he was treating El) and he can't. But he CAN make amends to the one he thinks he actually wronged: Will.
I hope we get to see a healthier (platonic) relationship between Mike and El in S5. I'd love to see Mike stop being the little asshole that he is after understanding himself a little better. It would put a nice bow in things because GOD MIKE YOU ARE SO ANNOYING AND SUCH A JERK RIGHT NOW.
If you guys believe these leaks I am going to shake my smh. Because there is no fucking way that someone was able to get ahold of it this fucking early. They haven’t even started filming and how did someone get ahold of it?
No. Just no. It literally contradicts everything that Noah said about the ending. Think logic people
Envisioning this as Mike, Will, and El idc idc
I think the biggest proof for me is that Mike’s character changed drastically ever since he started dating El. He started to deny parts of himself to become something he wasn’t. Mike’s whole character arc in S3 was about him conforming and realizing that he doesn’t need to. He still struggles with this but that also shows that El makes him insecure. He loved to be himself when they were just friends too. Again, shows how Memcake is bones and that Mike is hiding his true self while Will doesn’t make him feel like that.
HOLY SHIT I JUST FOUND OUT SOMETHING IDK IF ANYONE HAS POINTED THIS OUT
At the end of season 1, Will rolls a 14 and defeats a thysallhydra. Now, if Will’s painting foreshadows the boss of S5, that being the dragon is a Thysallhydra, then Will is going to be the one to stop it. He is going to have his big moment. Also he rolled a 14, the byler number is 7.
7 + 7 = 14
I guess gay love really is going to save the world, huh?
“Why would they have Byler get together in the last season?”
Babe, it took Jopper 4 seasons to finally kiss and it was in the finale. So I don’t wanna hear it
When Mike wears yellow and Will wears blue, you know an argument is about to happen that has gay ass symbolism with Mike projecting onto Will
Where are my future Byler fics where it’s 2022 and Will and Mike are in their 50s? C’mon I need it
Mike is Will’s protector emotionally
Will is Mike’s protector physically
So basically, they both protect each other in different ways
I want what they have
I need byler fanart but it’s Will and Mike in their 50s and they are married now. Like how come I don’t see that a lot? I like to imagine them all happy in their home being the adorable husbands they are. Even better if they have an adopted kid because gay dorky nerdy dads are my favorite thing in the world
Guys, Noah doesn’t write the show. The script for S5 is not even conceived yet anyways. So please stop freaking out, if S5 was coming out in 2 days I would have believed it, but it’s gonna be 2 years. Noah doesn’t know what really happens and he doesn’t have special access to anything. He is an actor.
The only thing I really believe from Noah, regarding Byler, is that Will is gay and in love with Mike. Something that is really obvious. So for now, I want you guys to breathe and just chill. Okay? Noah doesn’t write the show, he is an actor, not a writer and S5 hasn’t been conceived yet, so don’t think this is a loss
I genuinely think that Byler will get together in S5 Ep5.
Every iconic Byler scene/quote happens in:
S1 Ep1: “It was a 7”
S2 Ep2: “Crazy Together”
S3 Ep3: “It’s not my fault you don’t like girls”/byler fight
S4 Ep4: “Cool.” / “I feel like I lost you.”
S5 Ep5 should definitely have the moment Byler gets together or at least something very close because it just makes sense because of the pattern. And it would also be able to see the relationship in their just starting out and sort of awkward era (because I would love to see that).
It’s either that, or it’s a murray scene
Okay but I hate it when I’m watching Byler videos on YouTube and then there’s just this one comment going “It’s cute and all but Mike loves Eleven. What about Eleven?” Like they try so hard not to sound angry but I can tell they are shaking behind the screen.
Why do you need to comment this? Like we care? Eleven can be happy without Mike and also, there’s of evidence saying he doesn’t love her romantically. These people annoy me so much-
Like they say they aren’t mad when they literally typed a whole fucking paragraph 💀
I need a scene in Season 5 where Mike gets hurt and Will is treating his wounds because the Cleric is healing his Paladin
I don’t think I’ll be able to breathe when it happens, I’ll be kicking my feet so hard
I have listened to You’re the heart and being different together at the same time guys holy shit-
If Byler is not canon then why Ghostbusters parallel?
If Byler is not canon why Eyewitness parallel?
So apparently they are time-skipping to 1988…
What happened in 1987? 😨
Remember when Finn said:
“Probably a mutual understanding and acceptance”
This answer was regarding Will’s feelings, not his sexuality.
So there will be a confession in Volume 2 and it’s a mutual understanding. Which means he understands the feeling, and that it is mutual. Now, maybe I am stupid and that mutual does not mean you feel the same, but still, that wording gave me hope. Because it’s like “The feeling is mutual.”
I might be crazy and I probably am reaching who knows? But for the people who say that this was negative? That’s honestly a positive in my opinion
Okay so I have noticed people talking about Vibrantwaters and I don’t believe them. Now you may say that these leaks contain stuff from interviews but that’s how you get people to believe. You take facts, and then you put a bunch of lies and people will believe you. Like, this person says that they used to work on the show and was fired, I don’t believe they would just spoil EVERYTHING in Volume 2. People worked hard on this season, and I bet someone who actually worked on the show would not say much because why would you ruin it? Yeah I don’t believe this person and I don’t think I will until Volume 2 comes out. Take it all with a grain of salt. I would also hope that people search into this person and find their sources other than working on the show, because who are they? I don’t trust these leaks at all.
Also, didn’t they leak like 4 pages of script where the writing was pretty average? I’m pretty sure that’s where the “HER EYES OPEN” leak came from. No. I don’t believe these are real
Johnathan and Argyle after interrupting a Byler scene for the 7th time:
