Sure thing but y'all know that characters are supposed to be flawed in general AND they're in literal Hell where everything is more violent and sexual as on earth?
I love Stolas as a character BECAUSE he is an insufferable and selfish dick who thinks he can never be in the wrong. It's a really common personality trait and I like seeing it in Media. Today's "Assholes" can't be "assholes" anymore, because they all need to be "misunderstood" and I like that despite the tragic backstory you can still clearly tell he's in the wrong more often than not and that his backstory isn't an excuse but a reason - which everyone has.
Blitz is my favorite character BECAUSE he is absolutely incapable of overcoming his bad traits but he tries sometimes and when he does he fails and fails and fails and becomes more annoying to other people. He's hurting everyone - sometimes even accidentally and he doesn't realize it. He wants to overcome his trauma in all the wrong ways which heavily backfires and is stopping him from forming proper relationships. The two people who really owe him something (outside of adoption) just tolerate his bad behavior and are now - after the last episode - finally getting some growth of blitz in return.
I don't really care for Loona but for a traumatized, abandoned, literal DOG who just got adopted last second and having her entire life living in misery AND with a father figure with a character like Blitz it is understanding for me why she portraits her "love" to him in such a Stonewall-Way and treats him rather awful. She lived in the streets and her new family are mentally ill assassins, where was she supposed to get a healthy way to cope and communicate with people from? She still cares for him tho - both literally and figuratively.
And the phrase "no one wants to see characters doing their job" is literally just an opinion. Not a fact. Just because they think it's boring doesn't mean it really is. Different tastes exist for a reason.
I just love Helluva Boss' Warp that aesop page because it sums up everything wrong with this series, especially on Stolas' end. Seriously, this hits the nail on the head about the messages of the show and how much they dick suck Stolas and his shittiness.
A recent article came out about the mistreatment and pay of Spindlehorse employees, please spread this around.
You know,the worldbuilding for hazbin and helluva are interesting but at the same time,I feel a bit bored by it. Sorry,it's just it has potential and all of that but hell is just like a nighttown that you can go there and suffered no consequences. And I know helluva is a spinoff to hazbin hotel except it's just destroys the both meanings of it. Especially since hazbin is about redeeming sinners while helluva boss is just don't get mad at me but just soap opera between an elitist with a peasant. I thought helluva boss is gonna be us seeing the IMP doing their missions and encountered many different challenges on navigating a business not seeing a dramatic retelling yaoi festizhization love story of stolas and blitzo. And with hazbin,it's just I wanna see hazbin having different customers and guests and how they interact with the hotel not a literal fight with heaven of all things. What's next? Do I need to get into getting myself info a lore Livestream of Viv telling us? No,I want subtle storytelling not an Italian soap opera,ah man. Ah,now because of this I have to entertain myself with fans making fanmade comics of both helluva and hazbin hotel and I'm not complaining because let's face it,fans does it better than the creator Viv does.
Vivziepop so quickly strays from her original concepts, and it makes both shows difficult to watch. The last Helluva Boss episode that includes I.M.P. going to Earth on a mission to kill someone is episode 5, ‘Unhappy Campers,’ and that was only Millie and Moxxie. The last time the whole team went was episode 4 of season 1! Helluva Boss is now just a show about Viv’s twinks and kinks. I genuinely think I’ve seen enough of Stolas for a lifetime. There’s so much potential with a show like this, and I would have loved to see Helluva Boss explore both Hell and the Human World, but it does neither. There are so many ways this show could be executed to explore the worlds and character dynamics, but we barely even know anything about how these characters interact with each other.
Hazbin Hotel does the same thing. We have the possibility to explore Hell and Heaven, but we don’t. Hazbin Hotel is also supposed to be more about the women characters, but we know very little about Charlie, Vaggie, Niffty, or any of the other women; we instead get episodes about Husk, Alastor, Lucifer, Angel, Vox, and Val. Hazbin was supposed to be about new people coming to the hotel to learn about redemption. The only person we actually get is Sir Pentious, who doesn’t even change or learn anything about virtue and redemption. We also kind of get Cherri, but she isn’t even part of the hotel. 8 whole episodes for two official people in the hotel. I’d rather we see people coming to the hotel and learning about redemption for an entire season instead of the drama we see go down with Adam and Heaven.
Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss just move WAY too quickly. I think it’s even difficult for fans to write fanfics and comics about these characters because they have nothing to go off of. Almost none of the characters have personalities, and we don’t know how they interact with each other. However, I do think that Viv’s Hell is an interesting world. I just wish it was explored more. We’ve only see a few of the rings, met a few of the sins, and seen very little of Hell at all. I have no hope that Hazbin Hotel or Helluva Boss will be better shows, the only hope I have is that in 30 years, someone reboots these shows, and actually makes them good.
Stella: She’s a horrible, awful person! Who cares if she was brought up in the same environment and circumstances as Stolas. Some people are just born evil. If you try to give her any depth, you’re an abuser apologist! You don’t care about male domestic violence.
Loona: HAHA FUNNY! It’s slapstick. She came from a harsh environment. Blitz shouldn’t have criticized her. Can’t you take a joke?!
Okay before you ignore this post, please read all of this. It has been bugging me since S1ep8 came out and the whole "controversy". This post is more like me just speaking my thoughts and hearing other peoples opinions. Also, this is not me fixing her design saying that they should change it.
Think of it me just babbling on about stuff.
I'm not gonna lie I never liked Bee's design. I find it under whelming and never really fit with the shows vibe. Honestly I think they could've done more with her design than what they went with in the show.
I think they really missed making her a wolf or a wolf/bee hybrid.
Wolves are a way better symbol of gluttony than foxes. Wolves have historically been seen as gluttonous animals due to their always eating livestock. There's a good article explaining this in greater detail. They also symbolize wrath, and we have seen Bees get angry, so I think it would be a perfect fit.
Also, if you ever watch a nature documentary about them hunting and eating praying animals, it's pretty gruesome. I'm not saying we need to see that happening; I'm just saying how that behavior would fit well with the whole gluttony symbolism.
Also, another thing about wolves is that they are social animals! They hunt in packs and they love to play with each other! Just look up Wolves playing, trust me its really adorable! Like it just fits for the whole party girl vibe and it also fits with here character. As she does care about people. Wolves do take there pack's livelihood very seriously. Also, it would fit well with bees because there also social animals. Like it would make more sense
Another reasons Bee should of been a wolf is that wolves can be really cute.
And can be really scary.
I know people like Bees full demon form. But it never felt intimadting for me. Like imagine wolf Bee full demon form snarling and growling. On top of that with all the bug features, Bee would look fucking scary. Thats just me tho.
Not to mention, dogs are descendent from wolves. So it be a cool detail that Bee made hellhounds and who happens to be part wolf. I know that sounds a bit to realistic but I think it would a neat detail.
Oh and would also really go full circle with Vivs Die Young music video, with Jay Jay. Idk I just find it more sweet.
So yeah, that it.
Thanks for listening to my ted talk.
You know at this point I would petition for Moxxie, Ozzy or even fuckin' Striker to be Via's father figure because Stolas sucks and Blitzø is his simp
This most recent short was basically Vivziepop’s unofficial motto of “It’s only bad when a woman does it”
Fixed it.
I think how the Seven Deadly Sins are respected should vary depending on how sinful they are. _________
I'm going to be completely honest here. I think the Hellaverse's version of the Seven Deadly Sins are jokes due to how far off they are from their Demonolgy & Theology counterparts. With that being said, something the Hellaverse did get right is how Lust and Gluttony are often considered to be the two weakest sins out of the seven.
Lust is depicted as the weakest of the Sins because it's TYPICALLY the least malicious. As when people hear about a crime related to lust the majority will think of an infidelity having been committed. Does infidelity suck? Absolutely, you were cheated on by your partner with someone who either knew of the situation or with someone who’s in the same boat as you and didn’t know until it was too late. However, I would hope that most of us would rather hear/learn about one of our friends or family members having a partner who cheated on them over other lust filled crimes.
As for why Gluttony is seen as the second weakest out of the Sins would probably be how common it is to commit it and, again, it’s less malicious especially compared to sins like Wrath, Envy, and Pride. Think about it, you probably know at least one person in your family with a really bad habit related to overindulgence whether it be a raging alcoholic, a chainsmoker, a drug addict, or someone with Binge Eating Disorder aka BED (yes, Binge Eating Disorder is an actual diagnosis that many people have and struggle with in their day to day lives as it can cause them to eat excessive amounts of food even when they’re not hungry.) The point is, you likely know someone who has some kind of bad habit that they need to break and should get help so that they don’t end up digging themselves an early grave.
Now, back to my original point, having the Seven Deadly Sins be respected by least sinful to most sinful would make it to where we can not only get a good idea of what the Sins are like before we meet them but more importantly it establishes order and coherent world building which is what the Hellaverse’s hierarchy lacks the most. If I were to order and rewrite the Hellaverse’s Seven Deadly Sins it would be Asmodeus, Beelzebub, Belphegor, Mammon, Satan, Leviathan, and Lucifer.
That way lower class demons could be shown being less tense around Ozzie and Bee as they’re more approachable and sociable compared to other Sins like Satan and Leviathan. From the one image we’ve seen from the Hellaverse’s Satan, I can only assume he’s a tough bastard who would rather settle things in a good old fashioned brawl compared to negotiation.
As for why I think a lot of demons would fear Leviathan more so than Satan is because of most how religious texts describe him as being some kind of giant sea monster (depending on the religion some say he’s a hydra, water dragon, or a water serpent) that could only be slain by God as there used to be several Leviathans but when God realized how destructive they were, he killed all of them except one. If God hadn’t interfered, the many Leviathans would’ve destroyed all of creation.
So why did I place Leviathan lower than Lucifer when he sounds more evil than he does? Well, the answer lies within their intended purpose. Leviathan’s intended purpose was to destroy all who cross his path whereas SAMAEL’S intended purpose was to HELP not to HINDER. Leviathan was released into the ocean and was told, “Annihilate anything and everything.” Meanwhile, Samael was created and lived in Heaven as an Archangel who was instructed to assist God’s creations by watching over them, teaching them, disciplining them, and protecting them. That’s all he had to do but he threw away his title, his dignity, and LITERAL HEAVEN by letting his own hubris get the better of him. Truly, pride goeth before a fall (and apparently before a future name change.) _________
I thought that it'd only be fitting for my 7th opinion to be about the Hellaverse's Seven Deadly Sins. Also I don't hate the Hellaverse's canon Lucifer but I do think his character is a massive disappointment. There are ways to make a dastardly character likable without infantilizing or woobifiying them.
Stolas being an ass truly unites us all.
My subjektiwe and biased analyse of "seeng stars"
Disklaimer:
Wery clearly biased, anti Stoliz, pro Star and the moon (Loona x Octavia)
If you like Stoliz do not read it your not gonna like the post.
I was obsessively analyzing every shot of S2: Episode 2 of Helluva Boss, which resulted in this post. Read the disclaimer and enjoy
Oh, maybe the fact that she’s stressed and aggressive all the time has something to do with the fact that she’s a goddamn slave you adopted exclusively to be a secretary—but nah, I must just be a Blitz hater.
This phrase alone justifies all the bullying Moxxie got from Loona’s side. Fuck you DROP DEAD STAY BULLIED AND I'M GONNA CALL HIM FAT FROM NOW ON not because he is but because he deserwed to be bullied and pissed of all the time
How does a character who doesn't give a fuck (and doesn't even know Via) act, compared to a character
the show wants us to think gives a fuck and loves Via act
Moxxie couldn't care less about a teen they should rescue, Millie not being able to tell him no (and the joke is idiotic but is the best that we could possibly get in this series)
The whole line with Stoliz wasting time at the sitcom just shows that neither of them really gives a fuck about Via. First of all, Blitz has no weapons whatsoever? Cool—going into the human world with essentially your underpants down, to help the daughter of your abuser you really care about, and you end up spending the whole day surrounded by people that could be killed in a span of a minute. Whoah, Blitzo, keep it up. I'm sure your business sucks because Loona is a bad slave—OH, I MEAN WORKER. His whole work is supposed to revolve around going into the human world ALL THE TIME. How the FUCK does he not know what he's doing?
During the time they spend on the sitcome, Via could die 400 times, could be kidnapped 100 times, but ok whatewer hawe fun there. And only one single moment to note happens during the sequence—a part that tells us about Loona's childhood.
She spent it in a kennel, which essentially looks and feels like a prison (which needs a couple individual posts about it). And Blitzo, being the loving dad he is to his daughter that he cares about, chooses to adopt Loona because…because he needs a worker… and because she’s cute… A DAD TO DESIRE.
To analyse the next scene, we need to take note of Loona’s slave background. We see her just walking around like a normal young woman would—my love, 🥺💜 she actually got a chance to do this.
And then she needs to choose between completing her fucking boss’s duties and actually getting some fresh air. FUCK YOU, BLITZ, YOU COULD DIE. Loona—the one who cares again (the only one out of everyone).
Loona was the one to find Via because she was the only one who was searching for her. And the girls have a talk. Now, I think it's worth noting that Loona essentially just victim-blames Via into thinking that her father cares for her. But I don't think that was intentional.
Loona grew up in the kennel — everything we know about the kennel is that it's essentially something like a prison, just to then be put in another prison, to be a slave of the man that calls her his daughter. These are things that could NOT just pass by Loona's psycho health, and it shows.
Of course, to loona, Stolas is a good father because instead of displaying a clear case of abuse, he just don’t give a fuck. So for Loona, it's essentially the best thing that a father could ever be. She didn’t mean to victim-blame Via, she’s just too traumatised herself. She does her best to help, considering that Via is klearly still trying to reach up to her father.
Stoliz are trying to hard to not hawe to much fun when there are a teen in danger running around with Grimoire
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So you remember the plot twist we all loved? When Stolas becomes a secretary so Loona can finally be let from the fucking basement, I mean her workplace! to complete orders with her adopter —oh, I mean colleagues—she totally wasn't forced to stay with in any way, shape, or form?
So what we know is Loona used to stay in the office when Blitz and MandM were out completing orders,but why would I even complain about it? It's how secretating works! She still has her lovely evenings with her dear family and friends and… Well, she would if Blizo cared about his SUPPOSED daughter enough to even respect her as an employee. Do you remember an owl incident? WEAH, THAT ONE OWL INCIDENT,
and I refuse to fucking believe THAT was a one-time ignorance. She worked with this fuck from the moment she turned 17, he was her fucking boss and her motherfucking carer. So what do we have here? if IMP is Blitzos only income, and blitz like a daddy-dad to Loona, who really cares for her and spends money on her well-being… and the more customers they have, the more money they receive, the better food they have to eat. Sooo A lot of customers = Loona works overtime and can't fucking see the daylight EWER, but Blitz (hopefully) gives her some money. Very few customers = Loona KINDA has an opportunity to see SOME daylight but NEEDS TO STARVE.That's not just a life, that's a dream we all imagine before going to bed at night. The bad thing is, Loona has no opportunity to, the girl hardly ever sleeps.