Orin Lsoh - Blog Posts
Forgot to post this one when I drew it :p
i watched a movie with a funny plant in it and got jumpscared by a greasy vermin
Seymour Little Shop of Horrors
There are three ways to ship dentorin. (based off of a post I saw on the lsoh confessions blog!!!)
1. The sadist and masochist pairing. A classic. Orin likes it. Arthur likes it. Very Simple although there is a bit of mischaracterization at play here.
2. Creepy fluff. Actually just writing these two as hysterical and insane. Like one moment Orin will be hating on Arthur but as soon as Arthur’s like ‘IM IN LOVE W YOU’ they start making out sloppy style.
3. The overly complicated way where Orin actually has to explore why Arthur makes him so uncomfortable and the masochist just helps him navigate those strange ass emotions that have just popped up ‘out of nowhere.’
Depending on your flavor of angst or fluff, there are two routes this can take.
1. Arthur is actually supportive and helps Orin out.
2. Because the only thing Arthur was looking for *was* pain, etc, he’s unimpressed by Orin being vulnerable with him and as a result leaves him to pick up the pieces on his own. Orin isn’t the strong sadist Arthur thought he was.
Pick your poison lads. Option two is very ooc imo HIS ASS would not do that to Orin.
Opinion on the idea that the only reason why Orin pushed Arthur away was bc Denton kind of scared him? Like Arthur saw him in a completely different way than anyone else has and that HAS to scare someone whose very used to people being afraid of them right.
Orin uses his intimidation, etc as a means of both protecting himself and controlling others. In turn, that means that Arthur is unpredictable. As you can imagine, someone like Orin would most definitely hate unpredictability.
Old man yaoi.
Old man yaoi ✊️✊️
(glad that's catching on lmao)
Oh yeah 100% when I saw the movie that's what I thought,that orin was scared or at the very least very weirded out.
It's like he's not used to someone matching his energy.(I was gonna make a Analogy of it being like Julius Ceasar but it didn't make any sense and I just wanted to talk about Julius)
It's also probably would mean orin would have to come to terms with the fact he's gay and he does not wanna do that.
There's more I wanna say and something I wanna compare this too but I'm lacking the words
Something that's really funny about Little Shop 1986 is the juxtaposition between the narrative often not taking anything seriously/making fun of itself and the characters and plot to the point that it's meanspirited at times (like Seymour describing the lifelong abuse and neglect he's gone through being framed in a very comedic and flippant way that's clearly making fun of him to the point that there might as well have been a laugh track playing, this happens with Audrey's introduction as well) but at the same time the performances (especially those of Ellen Greene and Rick Moranis) are so sincere.
This is most prominent in the theatrical cut ending where some of the dialogue feels like it was written in that Spongebob sarcasm font ("ThIs Is BeTwEeN mE aNd ThE vEgEtAbLE") (the very mocking tone at parts probably comes from them being pissed off that they had to redo the ending and seeing this new happy ending as stupid and fake and vapid which is fair) but it still feels like the actors are taking it fully seriously. If they were pissed at the audience like the writers clearly were I certainly can't tell. I refuse to look up interview quotes for any of this because most times I've looked at an interview quote for this movie it's been completely antithetical to every single thought I've ever had about it and made me wonder if I've watched the movie that it's talking about but yeah. Also probably no one involved would admit it if they were pissed at the audience but like... the writers probably were based on some of that dialogue/framing. No I don't know who 'the writers' were despite having written the equivalent of two doctoral theses on this movie. Because researching the authorial intent is painful for the reasons I've described.
How did this post get derailed this hard
Anyway tl;dr the juxtaposition between the narrative not taking anything seriously/being very mocking and the performances being very sincere is fun, it really adds to the feeling of Seymour and Audrey trying to survive in a world/society that hates them when the narrative itself is taking the piss out of them half the time.
OMG GUYS A BULDING NEAR ME EXPLODED BECAUSE IT CAUGHT FIRE AND IT SUPPLIED NITROUS OXIDE???
LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS REFRENCE????
screenshot redraw :) click for better quality!!
(reblogs r appreciated!)
“i’m a boy” “im a girl” okay???? gee id like a harley machine????? zoomin around like i was james dean??????? makin all the guys on the corner turn green????????????
i will never look at the words ‘plant’ and ‘dentist’ the same ever again
Little shop of horrors Fandom please intract with me I wanna follow you and talk about little shop of horrors and surround myself with only little shop of horrors to feed my borderline unhealthy obsession.
I NEED you to ask my little shop of horrors questions, discuss little shop of horrors,tell me about your fun facts, literally anything I just need to talk about little shop of horrors.
Its like my only personality trait and I've been loving the people on here who've been talking about it with me.
So long story short if you are a little shop of horrors PLEASE intract.
This idea literally just occurred to me (by that I mean a few hours from when it's being queued, ignore the fact that it was queued for 7 in the morning) but what if Orin was reworked slightly to be Audrey's shitty abusive father and by killing him Seymour achieved the dream of every queer person ever to kill their best friend's shitty parents? I'm imagining that he left to get the milk when she was a kid like she describes in Suddenly Seymour and then took advantage of her kind nature and societally mandated obligation towards him to be able to crash at her apartment after she became an adult and not have to pay rent after his crimes as a dentist finally caught up to him and ruined his career and sent him looking for the solution to the suite of problems he now has at the bottoms of beer bottles. And his abuse towards her still has a sexual component because he sucks. And he 'justifies' it to himself by telling himself and her that her mom probably cheated on him anyway (and therefore she wouldn't be genetically his but is still apparently obligated to let him crash at her apartment and put up with his treatment of her for... reasons?)
Also the parallelism of Seymour killing Audrey's abusive father and his abusive father is nice. It'd be even better if she was the one to kill his abusive father, but I can't think of a way to make that work without significantly restructuring the plot. There could also be some parallelism with Seymour x Twoey considering that there are some jokes based on the premise that Seymour is a father figure of sorts to him (he gets mad at him when he curses and tries to sneak out on him with suitcases like a deadbeat dad and does midnight feedings with blood.) I would probably introduce Audrey's past at The Gutter through her saying (in very different words than the ones I'm using) that her very creation cursed her to be awful and not worthy of a good life (because her mom was a sex worker at The Gutter who Orin solicited the services of), which honestly sounds cooler than her having met him there and plays into the theme of the characters' lack of agency under capitalism that is explored throughout the movie.
plus I made my music director laugh SO loud at the end of rehearsal today
Him: Hey, have a good night. And sorry you cut your hand, hope it feels better
Me: Ah, it's fine. We'll start back up on the left hand tomorrow
Imagine..
Little Shop of Psychological Horrors
…cause like what heterosexual explanation is there for “oh the things we’re gonna do to your mouth~” ????
Audrey started working at The Gutter at 18, started working at Mr. Mushnik’s flower shop at 22, started taking HRT and dating James almost immediately afterwards, started dating Orin almost immediately after James “went to Czechoslovakia” after they had been dating for about a year and a half when she was 23, got top and bottom surgery very quickly after that, and dated him for about three and a half years before he “mysteriously went missing” when she was 27.
Kill them with kindness? WRONG nitrous oxide
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Since Orin is a workaholic for his job that doesn’t involve much strenuous physical activity, he is ironically not that strong. Audrey is probably stronger than him (I can back up the idea of her being physically strong with the fact that she canonically pushed his motorcycle while he was on it.)
‼️LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS TUMBLR, I NEED YOU‼️
So, I recently went to see a Little Shop production done by the school my sister teaches at. It was really good ! But one thing caught me off guard…
Arthur Denton…having a whole SONG?!!? And it looks like it was meant to take place a few songs after Orin died…
Sadly, though, the song was never performed (and Arthur never even appeared in the production) despite this being in the playbill. I was a bit disappointed, but thought “surely this is on the internet, at the very least there’s a reddit post about it or something, right?”
Nope!
Absolutely nothing!!! I couldn’t find any videos or posts that had anything to do with this song.
If any of you out there know ANYTHING about this, please tell! Until then…this shall remain a mystery…
Orin didn’t actually die from his gas mask just happening to break right at the exact moment that Seymour tried to kill him. What actually happened is that Seymour initially chickened out of killing him, tried to convince him to leave Audrey alone, and got laughed at because Orin was high on nitrous oxide. Orin suddenly lunged at him to get his gun, and he shot him due to an itchy trigger finger, somehow managing to kill the worst person of all time in an incredibly cowardly way. He then blocked out the memory and pretended that he had actually died because his gas mask broke. This isn’t that implausible when you consider that he clearly backed Mr. Mushnik towards the plant on purpose for several seconds and then pretended like he didn’t mean for that to happen (sure, bud.) When this is combined with the extreme convenience (and, let's be honest, lameness) of Orin just happening to die right at that exact moment, the interpretation that he actually did kill Orin seems surprisingly plausible.
Audrey has prosopagnosia (face blindness). Why do I headcanon this? It would explain her not being sure if she thinks Seymour is cute or not, and it would make the leather jacket scene more interesting if Seymour actually looked like Orin to her for a second (parallels between Seymour and Orin as Seymour spirals with guilt and wonders how alike they are we love to see it.) I also like the idea of her primarily associating him with things like the way he carries himself and his characteristic hand gestures in her mind. Like, when she hears his name she thinks about those things instead of his face. She developed prosopagnosia after falling off one of her boyfriend’s motorcycles, and she can compensate for it well enough that she doesn’t realize that she has it, although she sometimes gets a vague sense that something is off with her ability to recognize people.
