Sander Sides - Blog Posts
@immabethehero Yeah, sure. These rough sketches will assist
Jameson just wants to put on his puppet shows and I think the sides would enjoy it
Remus just wants to commit terrible atrocities, including (but not limited to) murder. Anti agrees and will gladly help with that
They should switch universes. I think they’d both be happier
There's so many 🥲 (Even just canon would be so many)
Is there a group name between Thomas, Jack, and Mark? There should be one. I’m gonna make one right now. I present to you:
SEA TRIO!
The reason I called them that is because if you mix the first letters of each of their things (Sides, Egos, ALTRs) You get SEA! I also could’ve gone Side, Ego, Ego (See) but I think this one looks better :)
Is there a group name between Thomas, Jack, and Mark? There should be one. I’m gonna make one right now. I present to you:
SEA TRIO!
The reason I called them that is because if you mix the first letters of each of their things (Sides, Egos, ALTRs) You get SEA! I also could’ve gone Side, Ego, Ego (See) but I think this one looks better :)
You wanna know what's fucked up? That Anti and Canon!Jack are called ‘comedy duo.’ COMEDY DUO. As if Anti hasn’t possessed and murdered (or at least attempted to murder) Jack out of cold blood. Out of all of the ego character pairings to get that name, you chose those two?! That's like calling Dark and Actor Mark ‘Bestie Duo’ or Patton and Logan ‘Muder duo.’
I get it's an inside joke, but the name is WILDLY misleading.
They should switch universes. I think they’d both be happier
How do you think Markiplier's egos and Sanders Sides would interact with one another?
I am so glad you asked! (This is gonna be long)
For context, I imagine the reason they all met was some time-warp space fuckery, and right now the sides only chance at survival is kinda hanging out with the egos until something can get sorted.
As a whole, everything is relatively peaceful. Is there Drama? Of course. But nothing too terrible. Maybe a physical altercation on a bad day, but nothing that would get the sides thrown out.
Let's get the obvious out of the way: Remus and Wilford would hang out. Remus would be fascinated by how off the walls Wilford could get and Wilford wouldn’t think twice about Remus’s insane sentinces. He’s like that Marge meme of ‘I just think he’s neat!’ Remus doesn’t really care about the others, but he loves asking Google fucked-up questions because he’ll just answer. No hesitation. And Remus thinks that's hilarious. Also him and Heehoo have to be kept in separate rooms after the incident.
Patton and Stan would be IMMEDIATE FRIENDS. I’m talking first day of knowing each other, Patton has already made friendship bracelets, Stan makes sure Patton is taking care of himself, and they have a ‘dad club’ that consists of only them two. And they match! They have basically adopted the others as their own, even Patton sometimes able to help Dark. The only person he hasn’t ‘officially’ adopted is Yancy. Patton found out Yancy was a self-made orphan and decided ‘he’s just, like, a friend’ because Patton values his life. (But if we're getting into uncanon egos, Patton basically adopted Erek Derekson and Hates Derek Derekson. Like I fully believe if you put this two face-to-face, they would fight. Patton deserves to go ape-shit as a treat :) )
Logan doesn’t necessarily like Google, but out of all the others, he tolerates Google the most. They pretty much work together to try and get things figured out for everyone, and their relationship is strictly work colleagues. Until Logan found out Google also really likes space. Now he’s intrigued. Another ego that intrigues him are The Jims. Its because he’s heard of a side splitting, but not infinitely splitting. Now he’s begun keeping a tiny notebook on everything he’s learned about the others.
Roman is the most active when it comes to hanging out with the other egos. Him and Yancy definitely bond over their love of musicals and their (chosen) family. For Illinois, however, I feel like they’re either partners or rivals, no in-between. If they’re partners, total bond over their love of adventure and constant compliments. If rivals, very catty behavior from both of them about how self-absorbed the other is. Roman and Dark have a mutual hatred for each other. Roman thinks Dark is the Villain while Dark hates any idea of a hero after Actor. Also Roman found out Dark was twins that re-merged and gained a new fear. And finally, Actor manipulates the shit out of Roman, constantly planting ideas of how similar they are and talking about how everyone else abandoned them so he should stay vigilant.
Janus probably talks to the others the least, keeping his distance and watching from afar. However, he does enjoy learning about the others through the sides that talk to him. Whether it's frustrations or compliments, he takes a mental note of it all. The only person he doesn’t know about at all is Actor, and Roman would love to keep it that way. Janus also loves knocking the more egotistical egos down a peg with off-handed comments. Luckily, that hasn't wound up in anything bad. And while he does do this, he would protect them if it came down to it. While he doesn’t like them, others do. And they all have a use.
Virgil, surprisingly enough, found his way near Dark. I think Dark realizes Virgil’s ‘potential’ and keeps him nearby because if anyone were to stop Virgil, it would be Dark. And if anyone were to help Dark, it would be Virgil. (You know Virgil’s voice thing when he gets anxious? Yeah, I’m gonna be the first to assume it doesn’t stop there.) Virgil over time realizes Dark is a lot like Logan and Janus, meaning he's keeps to himself a lot and attempts to hide his emotions a lot. But because Virgil is near Dark, he’s gotten to know all the others (as well as Dark) very well. Virgil nearly sprinted towards Logan once he found out Heehoo had a scientific name. Also Virgil was the first Side to find out about Dark and Wilford’s Past, which was shocking for him because some of the other egos don’t know his past.
So that's my head canons, feel free to tell me your own, and I hope you have a good day!
Omg, that's so funny, wait-
“Hey, Remus?”
“Yeah, Patrick?”
“IT WAS ONE TIME-”
Do you think canon Thomas ever, like... Mixes up their names? We know for a fact Writer Thomas does, thanks to bloopers. Like, Logan alone has been mistaken for both Virgil and Patton at one point. Like, it has to be the same for canon Thomas, right?
Thomas definitely had one of those mom moments where he just rattles through all the names until he says the right one. Also a possibility, Thomas rattles off a couple names, gives up, and just points at them while saying “That one! You!” Thomas accidentally called Remus ‘Roman’ once and, safe to say, will never make that mistake again. (No violence (surprisingly,) just a lot of yelling about Thomas’s ‘audacity’ and how they aren’t the same.)
But also I feel the other sides are guilty of this as well. Logan called Patton ‘Janus’ once. Patton thought it was funny, but this haunts Logan. Remus called Virgil ‘Roman’ once, and Virgil brushed it off as a ‘hey, don’t worry about it’ kinda moment. Remus had never been more grossed out by a mix-up. (Ew, I called him my brother’s name? Gross.)
And Thomas has been called by all of the side’s names at least once.
Hot Take: Patton isn’t my favorite side. But next time I get a poll asking who my favorite side is, I'm picking Patton out of spite because I’m super spiteful and YALL ARE SO MEAN FOR NO REASON
Like, Patton ain't perfect, of course not (none of them are,) but Jesus! Some of you guys are so hostile to him for no good reason!
Do you think canon Thomas ever, like... Mixes up their names? We know for a fact Writer Thomas does, thanks to bloopers. Like, Logan alone has been mistaken for both Virgil and Patton at one point. Like, it has to be the same for canon Thomas, right?
Thomas definitely had one of those mom moments where he just rattles through all the names until he says the right one. Also a possibility, Thomas rattles off a couple names, gives up, and just points at them while saying “That one! You!” Thomas accidentally called Remus ‘Roman’ once and, safe to say, will never make that mistake again. (No violence (surprisingly,) just a lot of yelling about Thomas’s ‘audacity’ and how they aren’t the same.)
But also I feel the other sides are guilty of this as well. Logan called Patton ‘Janus’ once. Patton thought it was funny, but this haunts Logan. Remus called Virgil ‘Roman’ once, and Virgil brushed it off as a ‘hey, don’t worry about it’ kinda moment. Remus had never been more grossed out by a mix-up. (Ew, I called him my brother’s name? Gross.)
And Thomas has been called by all of the side’s names at least once.
I’m writing Roman (Sander Sides) and The Actor (Who killed Markiplier) meeting and holy shit, the manipulation go crazy.
Lowkey wanna post it, not sure though.
If anyone needs any ideas for a Sander Swap AU, I got important information from the ‘invert’ button
Roman - Morality
Janus - Logic
Remus - Anxiety
Patton - Creativity
Logan - Deceit
Virgil - Intrusive thoughts
And I guess the orange side and Thomas switch places, idk
Anyways, back to goofy posts
What if Logan was actually saying ‘bullshit’ instead of ‘falsehood,’ but it came out falsehood because of the ever-present censor over the show. Because let's be honest, Remus wouldn’t change out the word ‘fuck’ for ‘Fuchsia.’
My Sander Sides Enlightment
You know what’s always kinda bothered me? Those mean takes on the other sides. Like ‘Janus is manipulating Patton and isn’t actually trying to be friends with him,’ ‘Patton has too much moral superiority,’ ‘Roman never learns,’ So on and so forth. There is something bad to say about all the sides. No hate to anyone who's made one, you are valid and probably right in your own way. I think the only reason they bother me so much is because you can easily say the opposite. The most common phrase being ‘Nobody listens to ____’
“Nobody listens to Patton! He was trying to show the others that Virgil was good all along and only when Virgil was gone did they listen.”
“Nobody listens to Logan! He gets ignored constantly and he’s getting mad because of it.”
“Nobody listens to Roman! Every time he comes up with a solution, he gets shut down only to get blamed for not coming up with a solution.”
“Nobody listens to Virgil! He only gets listened to when he forces Thomas to hear him, and he doesn’t like doing that.”
“Nobody listens to Janus! Even when he has good ideas and arguments, they get pushed to the side because he is a dark side.”
“Nobody listens to Remus! That was the entire point of an episode. And all he wants is to be listened to, it doesn’t matter who.”
And all of these are valid points. But at some point, you have to wonder who’s not listening the most. Which is how I think the criticism posts of the characters came to be in the first place. But I don’t think any of them are to blame. Even when this new side gets revealed, it won’t be his fault either. The fault isn’t on Roman, or Logan, or Janus, or any of them.
It's on Thomas.
And of course I don’t mean ‘Writer Thomas,’ I mean ‘Character Thomas.’ Throughout the series, Thomas has always held himself high. You can’t be perfect, but you can try to be. And every time a situation comes up, he doubts himself, wondering if he’s even any good at all.
And in comes the sides, telling him that he can’t be bad and here's why. In fact, Thomas won’t let himself be bad at anything. Can’t be a bad worker, can’t be a bad actor or singer, and certainly can’t be a bad friend. Even in situations where he wouldn’t even be those things, he can’t even let himself risk it.
And so, the sides follow suit.
Logan becomes the perfect person for knowledge and learning, never letting himself be anything less than right all the time.
Roman strives to be perfect physically and materialistically, coming up with creative ideas that help Thomas move up in the world or, at the very least, make himself feel better.
Patton is the perfectly moral person. Make sure everyone is alright, help whenever and wherever you can, and always keep a smile on. Wouldn’t want anyone worrying for you, right? That wouldn’t be good.
Virgil is the perfect alarm system. Even false alarms are taken with the utmost seriousness. Just as long as no one else knows your anxious.
Janus is a deceiver. And Thomas lies often. So he needs to be the best at putting on a face and making sure nothing goes off without a hitch. Wouldn’t want people catching him in a lie. He needs to be the perfect liar.
And then there's Remus. The only one who tries not to be perfect. But that idea terrifies the others so much, Remus is left to pick up all of the imperfection slack. Maybe that's why Remus was offended when he was called ‘Scary.’
Trying to be so many perfect things all at once, you’re going to but heads with all of the different aspects of yourself. You're going to not listen. You're going to ignore. And in some cases, your perfectionism is going to make you look like the bad guy. And as someone with perfectionism, I relate a little too hard.
Thank you for reading.
It's always “If they were in the same universe, Wilford and Remus would be friends/dating/enemies” and never “If they were in the same universe, Roman would have a field day or mental breakdown learning everybody's names”
Reminder: Roman thought the names Janus and Virgil we're embarrassing. There are canon characters named “Captain Magnum,” “Heehoo,” and “HeapAss.” (Yes, HeapAss is canon, he’s one of Yancy’s friends. Also yancy is a good example for this.)
Roman would have a mental breakdown as the names get more and more ridiculous and Virgil would just hover around him until finally he gets really close and goes “And you thought my name was bad.”
Imagine if Thomas woke up one day and went “You know what? I’m gonna make my series a horror.” Wouldn’t that just change everything?
If you are ever confused about the Markiplier lore, don’t worry ❤️ Logan Sanders would be too
Let’s talk about 16th century Italian theatre.
No wait come back I promise this is actually related to Sanders Sides
So, last night I was talking with some friends about an AU I’m currently working on. I’ve been away from the Sanders Sides fandom for a good while now, but recently my hyperfixation reactivated and now my brain is so ready to write a ridiculously long longfic with a convoluted premise and horrifying implications. (I’m like 25k in. Having the time of my life. No doubt I’ll talk about it more later. This isn’t about that.)
Since I’m not the sort of person who usually writes AUs - I prefer to stick to canonverse, and canonverse-adjacent fics - I eventually brought up how worried I always am about characterization of the Sides in AUs. Because although I do adore an AU; I devour Love and Other Fairytales like candy and think about Lavender For Luck all the time and don’t even get me started on WIBAR, when it comes to my own writing, I secondguess myself a lot. I don’t like to stray too far from canon concepts and characterization. I get worried when I don’t draw enough connections to things that happen in the series, because it feels like a betrayal of the source material - if I change a character dynamic from how it’s usually portrayed, I spend entirely too long thinking about how to make it work.
And someone else said, well, I don’t usually worry about that sort of thing very much anymore.
And I said, why not?
And they said, well, I haven’t watched the actual show for ages. I mainly treat the Sides as stock characters for the stories I write, and my brain fucking exploded.
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yeah sorry but your boyfriend split in two. yeah. he’s now a green duke and a red prince. he gives a 30 year old gay man intrusive thoughts and loves disney now. yeah. sorry.
Fun Facts:
Anti’s first canon appearance was October 10, 2016
The first episode of SanderSides came out October 19, 2016
And A date with Markiplier came out Febuary 14, 2017 (Valentine's day)
Meaning all of these great series came out days (or months) apart from each other! Isn’t that cool?!
I’m not wrong. Are you gonna look at this and tell me that I’m wrong? You can’t, because I’m not. If you did, that would be lying.
The funny “Gay Sex” Sanders Sides posts never fail to make me laugh
Y'all sure like Sander's Sides huh?
So, you know how Virgil can, like, ‘duck out?’ Like basically, he can turn himself off and Thomas no longer feels anxious to the point of aloofness?
Do you think Janus can do that?
Imagine Thomas goes through something and the others are like “dude, wtf, what's going on?” and Thomas is like “No, I can’t tell you guys” and Janus is like “no, that's fine. Man, I’m so tired, I think I’m just gonna take five, let me know when he tells you guys.”
I just wanna draw my community blorbos as the autism creatures
Holy shit, The mind electric by Chonny Jash makes my Sander Sides hyperfixation hit DIFFERENT-
Especially if you look at the heart segment as Patton and Janus, The mind section as Logan and Virgil, and the soul segment as Roman and Remus.
To further my point, here are some actual lyrics from the song ((with notes by me)):
The Heart segment:
But as complacency settles, anxieties will rise
And part this Soul as Jekyll parted Hyde
Now I’m but half of a hollow man’s lies:
The love, the hate, the еmotional side
((LIKE BROO???? Janus and Patton talking about doing nothing will just make Virgil be anxious and talking about how Thomas has them seperated))
“I know I’m weak. I know that I’m vile
But sometimes that is needed to survive.”
That’s what I’ll say to rationalize
“I’m needed if we’re to stay alive.”
((Janus trying to convince himself he is needed))
And yet, here I lie with black, sunken eyes
My Mind’s consigned our sighs to a leaden void
The Soul remains tempered. I remain plied
Condemned ‘til we are both all but destroyed
((Patton sad that Logan and Virgil are convinced that emotion is not needed, convinced that this will do more bad than good.))
But I know that one plus one can’t equal two
If happiness is both our truths
Our total sum must equal one if we’re to find that golden hue
((Basically like ‘Hey, guys! We need to be apart of this whether you like it or not!’ Also trying to convince the others that happiness is the ultimate goal.))
See how The Mind tricks The Soul
Into being something sickly, dead and cold
As you feel it start to tire and fester so, so slowly
Up until the point where it will finally die
Just in time to see what could have been
((Talking about Virgil and Logan trying to convince Roman and Remus to be on their side?? Also talking about how this is a bad idea because they could pass opportunities. God, I need an animatic and I need it now-))
Do what you want, you automaton freak
No, I can no longer bring myself to care
This hollowed out vessel’s beginning to creak
So take control, let’s see how you fare
((Janus being sassy before the Parts change? Iconic.))
The mind segment:
Resident Heart is feeble and frail
A scourge to purge; due diligence is all
Silent, sad outbursts, inaudible wails
Dictate he never does as he’s told
((Logan and Virgil talking about Patton? Mad he’s doing his job and has emotion, talk about projection.)
Fathers of fathers, brothers of sons
Deterred from being what they know they can
All because Heart refuses to run
This creature hardly resembles a man
((Once again, these boys trash-talking Patton, but now also bringing the ‘sons’ into this (R&R)))
My logic is the absolute
His pity parties simply harm these chances at an apt repute:
Esteemed regard in place of mockery
((Logan talking about the others and how he needs to be listened to more))
I’m sure it seems from his point of view
That I’m a simple, cynical machine
But is it so hard to see the whole truth?
I merely seek a Soul that’s pristine
((Virgil talking about Janus and how he only wants the best for Thomas))
See how The Heart plays profound
(See how he lies.)
But the depth is insincere
A pathetic, thin veneer
All the pain, regret and fear still resound
((Just more L and V talking shit, but more specifically critiquing on how Patton and Janus both think they know best when they don’t))
Though I seem harsh in all my assessments
We each seek a life lived in the light
Yet, there lies our Heart, engulfed in resentment
Stubborn, pale akaryocyte
((Logan being like ‘yeah, I was a little harsh, but I’m not gonna fucking apologize because something needs to be done.’ Also equated ‘having emotions’ as having a ‘virus’ because that's what akaryocyte means))
The soul segment:
Call me The Soul or call me my name
Oh, label me whatever you would like
Call me your host or call me insane
If that will help you stay in line
((Basically an introduction, but also why I put Remus as the soul because he would be like ‘Yeah, I’m insane, sure, but it works, doesn’t it?’))
Fathers of fathers, I know that I’m vile
Let’s see how long it takes to murder me
Neither is wrong, yet neither is right
Condemn him to the infirmary
((Remus basically knowing his job is to be terrible and telling Patton “hey, I’m the exact opposite of you. And if you hate it so much, kill me.” While Roman is like “both sides have points, but I don’t know who to choose”))
I. Am. Me.
((You can’t tell me this isn’t all of them shouting this at the same time. They a frustrated bunch.))
See how the brain plays around
And it splits what once was whole down into three
And you fall inside a hole, inside a
Someone help me
Understand what’s going on behind my eyes
Doctor, I can’t tell if I’m not me
((The creativity twins both mad at Logan and Virgil for digging deeper into the psyche, trying to make sense of things.))
See how they fight all day
The other half won’t hear what’s had to say
It’s just the game they play here in this labyrinth maze
((Do I... Do I need to over-analyze this line? I feel like this one does the job for me))
Tridential regicide
I won’t hesitate to kill my Heart and Mind
I will abdicate these deviants sat inside
I’ll take you down in tandem when this rope is tied
((Basically both of them saying ‘this fighting is gonna kill me and, in turn, us.))
And this was a lot longer than I intended. And there are parts I didn’t even get to! Please listen! God, it's so good.
“Bury your feelings” implies he murdered Patton, and I feel the sad feeling thinking about that
GET IT LIKE BURY YOUR FEELINGS???
...I'll leave
No! Let's not imagine!
The sanders sides season finale is just going to be gay sex
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