I’ve been rolling this thought around in my head for a while since last time I said something akin to this I almost got forced to out the trauma that would have fucking doxxed me but it’s something I feel real needs to be said.
So to the Stranger Things fandom (and you fucking know who you are) objectification does not suddenly become permissible because they’re male.
Dacre, Joseph, Charlie, Joe- they’re real people and some of the shit you’re saying about them isn’t fucking ok. You know how some of the shit folks were saying about Pedro stopped being ok
Saying a real person has a “naturally submissive” body or pulling up photos from when someone was being abused saying you wish they still looked like that wouldn’t be ok with random people you know so why would it be ok saying that about a celebrity.
Dacre and Charlie are literally victims as well- objectifying their bodies to this ridiculous degree where you’re literally mirroring the kind of shit that the Duffers made them do is not ok and is really upsetting and triggering to see as a victim myself.
We all agree it would be gross and creepy if someone was saying this about Grace or Natalia- why the fuck is it permissible when the genders are flipped.
These are not fictional characters. They are real people. And with Dacre and Charlie, their experience with abuse and objectification are very very real. I genuinely don’t know what to say at this point. Apart from it’s immensely cringe behaviour and even if the actor you’re talking about don’t see it, people who’ve had to deal with objectification and abuse on tumblr will.