just saw someone on twitter saying that they cut a scene where misty slaps natalie in the cocaine scene and immediately went to check - i feel SO ROBBED!!!
not that connected to the shipp itself (even tho im actually expecting this to be shipp related) but i think a must for s4 that they give us some development on mistynat post rescue. this giant gap between their relationship in the teen x adult timeline doesn't really add up....
in the start of season one we have an overview of why the girls find misty so weird and exclude her from the group (the whole situation with ben + the poisoning + etc), meanwhile we see the adults acting on it as if it was the reason why they treat her like a freak.
BUT the thing is that currently on season 3 misty is kind of accepted again in some way (we can see a bit of it at the trial scene, specially the way nat treats her), so what really happened between her and all the girls so they just disappeared on her for 25 years even tho she tried to keep contact with them?
did ALL the girls really ignored her or did something happen between her and natalie? why did they both had such a weird ass horny reaction when they met up again? why aren't shauna and tai that surprised when nat says misty was helping her with the whole travis thing? and most importantly, why didn't misty go after natalie before??
anyways, just some things ive been thinking about. #brainrot
this may be too niche but i find it so AMUSING that there' two curly, blonde, autistic, lesbian characters, with a sad past, who doesn't fit in and have killed at least one person named misty. and the fact they're both so kind and misunderstood... also the way they both have a "queen" and are so hopelessly devoted to them.
can we please talk about the way nothing was shown about the rest of the 25 years reunion party in season one? misty said it was a perfect night and that she was a bit hungover.... also nat was totally miserable after.
it made me think about that one fic where nat says to misty she just kissed her because she was going to kill herself after that night. idk it just makes sense to me - specially with the way misty has her first breakdown in the show right after that when she thinks nat left without telling her.
rewatching the mistynat cocaine scene and just now realizing that even though nat was really pissed off with misty she still didn't come close to being as mean to her as she was with kevyn for doing much less like a few hours before... #girlfriends #soulmates
im scared to ask how you feel about lottie as a character
i have a very complicated relationship with lottie and ive been DYINGGG to talking about her because shes more interesting than shauna can ever dream of being. SHE'S the complex female character we need more of.
okay so to preface: i have multiple scales for character appreciation in my mind. there's writing (how well they're characterized and their role as a narrative decive), personality (how much i would fw them as people), action defendability (self explanatory, how willing i am to ride for their defense), and treatment in the fandom (how contrarian i wanna be)
yall know how it is yapping under the cut
lottie. ohhh boy.
writing: oh no notes. 10/10 she is one of the most fascinating characters in the show. her setup and descent is so well done, and her motivations are beyond complex, like you have her trying to do the best for everyone, but also her whole "the wilderness will choose" mindset. she contrasts herself in the yummiest ways possible. her role in the story is absolutely the most relevant and important for the narrative to progress the way it does. as a character, shes's so well done it makes me wish that i could be objective about the whole thing
personality: unfortunately im not able to enjoy characters simply from a robot analysis objective scale. lottie's personality is -while interesting- absolutely INFURIATING to watch. i personally cant stand characters that i call "progress blockers". she repeatedly forces her belief system (deep psychosis) onto the rest of the team, at the expense of escape or actual rational thought. this is where i have to admit: i root for morally sound, logical characters especially in shows like this. "but you can't watch the cannibalism show and complain about the cannibalism" first off. who said im complaining about the cannibalism. im just complaining that shes tormenting my favs (ben, travis, akilah, nat). i do like that she plays a complicated role as the group's mediator, except her mind is so warped, she does an awful job at it (drugging travis, letting shauna beat her up, deluding her followers). i think that shows how much she cares for these people deep down, and i can respect that. more on that later in ther actions section.
actions: so lottie, like i mentioned earlier, has a really interesting internal conflict of wanting to do whats best for as many of the team as she can, while also not being against sacrificing them for the wilderness's mercy. she very much believes that the ends justify the means. however. i can't ever look past her scenes on doomcoming. and im hoping that the people who made it this far aren't illiterate fucking troglodytes who want to debate on what actually happened to travis that night. because it was s/a, actually, it was attempted gang rape and then attempted ritualistic murder. "you cant watch the murder show and hold it against the murderers" we all know damn well that thats not what was most upsetting about that scene, and im allowed to hold certain crimes over eachother in terms of severity. and quite frankly i just cant bring myself to like a character who engaged -ACTIVELY LED AND RATIONALIZED- in that. lottie's whole schtick is that she just doesnt fucking understand or respect boundaries, literally and metaphorically. moving on from doomcoming, she's weird and culty about shauna's baby, which shauna has full right to be freaked out and pissed about. she becomes the leader of the group in s2 and then can't make proper decisions. she lets shauna almost beat her to death instead of trying to mediate the situation rationally, setting up shauna's vengeful nature we see in s3. thats something i could talk about for hours, how shes partially responsible for the shauna we all know and hate. her drugging travis and akilah is a page straight out of misty's handbook, and i dont think i have to explain why it's wrong. her killing edwin?? denying them all escape, causing a chain reaction with shauna and tai also staying behind??? that elevated my blood pressure to a level dangerous to my health. i cannot stand progress blockers. yes, i know she thinks everything she does is right. that doesn't make me (a rational bystander) like her actions any more. again, there are rational people in the show, so im just gravitated towards them sorry guys.
fandom: lottie has two types of people rooting for her in the fandom. theres the "omg my lord and savior she can do no wrong" group and the "omg crazy ass schizo mental illness queen" group and neither of them get her. she's flawed. but her flaws shouldn't all be attributed to dehumanizing conversations about her mental illness. let's not forget that she was a 17 year old going cold turkey on antipsychotics after living the last decade on them, in a situation that's beyond stressful, mind you. no fucking wonder she turned out that way. whatever. i feel like there arent a lot of her fans who recognize the absolute gray nuance in her character. or maybe im just on tiktok too much and everyone on there is fucking rotted beyond belief.
conclusion: i love her. i hate her. im neutral. she scares me. i blame her for all the problems out there and she's doing her best. that's the point
guh
Lottielee Everything Everywhere All at Once AU where in every single universe out there, they never fall in love with each other, except for the one where their plane crashes.
In some universes, they meet each other and run in similar circles. In other universes, they’re oceans apart, and the possibility of them even passing each other by on the street is so significantly small.
In all of these other universes, they turn out just fine. They live common lives as normal people who don’t know that in only one out of millions, if not billions, of other universes out there, they hold each other’s hearts.
They never have to suffer losing each other in all the other universes because they only fall in love once. Still, it’s in that one, singular universe where Lottie suffers and Laura Lee dies that things finally go right.
It’s the only universe in existence where they find love. The tragedy is that no matter how powerful that love is, nothing stops Laura Lee from dying. Nothing stops Lottie from losing a piece of herself that she tenderly placed in Laura Lee’s care.
All the different Lotties and Laura Lees in other universes never find their way to each other. They never experience the cruelty of fate as it rips one of them away from the other. However, they also never experience happiness the way they do in that one singular universe where they’re together.
You guys are defending Mari when she literally walked all the way to civilization without them just to fuck Shauna’s dad
yellowjacketsblr what the fuck is this exactly
idk if this is spoilers i’ll spoiler it just incase
my friend sent this to me and is refusing to explain the context and i can only assume this is someone being sacrificed by lottie or some shit cuz like she’s a cult leader right
“why do you leave?”
„Shauna’s character was butchered (haha) this season.“ „She’s cartoonishly evil.“ „Her actions make no sense.“ „No depth“
LOUD AND WRONG PEOPLE !!!
This is all I’ve been seeing on TikTok about season 3 and let’s be honest, TikTok yj fans are the worst but this is plain wrong.
Now, not saying you have to „defend“ Shauna in this season (no one asked u to, babe) but there was still depth to her character in season 3.
I was thrilled to see Shaunas character arc taking a different direction. Season 2 was all tragic and more or less reasonable but this is over now. Shauna is hurt, traumatized and all this hurt turned to anger. She shut herself of from the group but then she still wants power over them, some kind of thing she can be in control of. Because that’s a whole thing for her especially in the adult-timeline. When she gets that little bit of power with Melissa she thrives on it and gets greedy.
When for some reason the other girls don’t really try to stand up to her she lets the power get to her. That’s a classic trope. Starting with something small and getting away with it, to being in charge of the whole group. Not random pretty reasonable timeline.
Grief -> Anger -> Control and Power as an outlet for Anger -> Euphoria ->(Hybris)
That’s where we get the (for me world changing) line about Shauna having fun in the wilderness.
I definitely don’t think this is unreasonable and I strongly dislike people claiming this was bad writing.
Now that season three is over, and both the lottienats and lottielees were fucked, can we all just hold hands? We're all just freaks who like lesbianism with religious symbolism. Super extremely important gay dissertation under the cut.
I think the argument on whether or not Laura Lee or Nat meant more to Lottie is kind of stupid, considering they've both been shown to have a lot of value in her story. Laura Lee was the sort of precursor to the wilderness, she's the one who started all of that in Lottie. Meanwhile, Nat was "always its favorite"; the one who was at the center of the wilderness for Lottie, she was the sort of chosen one. I also think Laura Lee and Nat work as interesting foils in Lottie's overall story. Laura Lee represents complete unwavering belief and faith, while Nat represents doubt and skepticism. Throughout the first two seasons (before the massive nosedive in season three happened) we saw Lottie navigating the thin line between faith and doubt, and Laura Lee and Nat are the physical embodiments of those key elements.
Due to these different roles Laura Lee and Nat played they both offered different but very needed things to Lottie in their respective moments. In season one Laura Lee offered Lottie what she so desperately wanted, belief and validation. Lottie has always felt insecure and unsure about herself, especially in regard to her schizophrenia. Laura Lee, for better or for worse, intensely validated Lottie. So much so she convinced her she was a prophet touched by god. Laura Lee offered her comfort and belief, which is something Lottie had never received from anyone else throughout her life. Jump to season two we can see now that the way the girls have deified Lottie is beginning to weigh heavily on her. She doesn't know what to do with it, she's not even fully sure of herself, and definitely not sure enough to lead an entire group of girls who are desperate for something to believe in. But then there's Nat who disagrees with her and challenges her at every possible moment, she doesn't deify her, she just views her as a teenage girl. Even if it was frustrating, it's what Lottie needed in that moment, a break from being put on a pedestal. Which is why one of the only scenes in season two where we see Lottie just acting like a teenage girl, separate from all of the wilderness politics, is with Nat in the bathtub scene. It's also a contributing factor to why she ultimately crowns Nat as their new queen.
-I realize in season three the girls stopped believing in Lottie and instead begin to dehumanize and demonize her. However, as we see in episode eight, Nat doesn't call her crazy when she wants to stay like everyone else does and instead tries to reason with her and talk to her like what she is, a scared teenage girl.
With all of this in mind, I'm just incredibly mad at how they handled Lottie's character in season three. They did not mention Laura Lee once, and they did not give Lottie's connection with Nat the exploration it deserved. I was very pissed at how they handled her death; it could have been a very interesting final exploration of her relationship to faith and doubt, but instead we got no real insight into her mental state. Lottie deserved some kind of post-death scene, not necessarily a plane scene, but a scene where she confronted the wilderness and what it really meant to her. She could have been met with Laura Lee and Nat who were the physical embodiments of her faith and skepticism, and seemingly two of the most important people to her. Instead, they stripped out all of the nuance from her character and left what's honestly a quite harmful portrayal of schizophrenia. So yeah, with that being said, we should all just kiss and hold hands because this season absolutely massacred Lottie's character.
Callie: Okay yeah I killed Lottie but it was an accident.
The accident in question:
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— Traci Brimhall, Dear Eros
YELLOWJACKETS + text posts 3.10 Full Circle
To me the crux of the story in Yellowjackets will always be a reflection of how modern major societies continuously and systematically fail the most vulnerable.
Every character in this show is a victim one way or another.
Lottie was born into a privileged life but was othered by her own mental illness and constantly failed by a world that continuously silenced and isolated her rather than guiding or dealing with the issues she didn't understand how to address.
Natalie started with nothing. She is the reflection of many children in America who are born into families that do not have the physical, economic, or emotional resources to care for them.
Travis very clearly has some sort of anxiety disorder and has been shown to have a history of being bullied and even ridiculed by his own father. God forbid a young boy have any type of sensitivity. Beyond that, his character is a very deliberate example of a survivor of sexual assault- an issue that is never really addressed by the perpetrators.
Taissa was born into a middle-class privileged family and a great deal of pride and ambition that was likely learned or reinforced in some way. She also was a teenage, mixed race, lesbian in the 90's. She had every instinct and drive to succeed despite a world that was structured so that she couldn't.
Jackie was born into a privileged, suburban, white family- but she was still a teenage girl in the 90s with perceptions of who she was forced onto her.
Shauna was the stereotypical poster child of teen angst in modern America, but she also had a deep set insecurity and maladaptive issues that were never looked at or acknowledged.
All of these children undergo a tremendous amount of stress, loss, grief, pain, and both physical and emotional trauma that changes them forever. But then they return to a world that is indifferent to all of that. Their pain is spectacle. Something to be publicly agreed upon as a tragedy. But they don't ever receive the care they need from it. They are shuffled back into a world they no longer fit into and expected to return to their roles as proper, civilized, demure young women and gentleman.
The tragedy of Yellowjackets was never about the horrors of survival in the wilderness- the tragedy has always been that this is a very clear depiction of how society's indifference and persistent marginalization of those considered "other" can push people to the brink of destruction or their own humanity.
I can't even argue with this tbh
People who don't watch the show should try to guess what she's smiling about here
mari was killed by a card meant for hannah, in a trap meant for lottie, by a conspiracy meant for shauna, and yet there was no other way for this story to go. shes been dead since the beginning.
I went to Sicily recently with my latin class and the guide started telling us the story of saint agatha and tell me why my brain went "heh- she's kinda Laura Lee coded" like ok autism chill tf out
edited the blog to honor the cuntiest cunt to ever grace this earth taken to soon at the hands of bisexual Stalin 🙏🙏🙏
no that's Lottie Shauna didn't even have them to begin with ☺️
People who don't watch the show should try to guess what she's smiling about here
@yourlocalsluttymanenjoyer @ohwowhereiam
Do it do it
People who don't watch the show should try to guess what she's smiling about here