the thing about kastle is that yeah they formed this strong unspoken bond and she'll blow up her life for him and he'll take bullets for her but we know they haven't even reached their peak when he finds out how deep her dad trauma goes oh that's a wrap he's falling into her arms right then and there
also. the u want a cup? no thank u scene??? deb played this soooooooo. the way u can physically see karen put the walls back up. she's been here before. and he walked away from it and it almost killed her and she can't do it again. and frank is falling all over himself like karen!!!! I did this for u just for u because u ask karen because it was u!!!!! remember the diner karen remember holding on with two hands and never letting go!!!!!!!!!! karen!!!!!!!! what if we were sooo in love and soooo bad at communication <3
when u married ur wife after a few months because u got her pregnant and then she is violently murdered and admitting to urself that maybe she wasnt theee love of ur life is like killing her all over again and the guilt of it is too heavy on top of all your other sins so u reject the woman who is and thats also killing u. it happened to my good friend frank castle.
Daredevil: Born Again Straight to Hell | 1.09
...I heard your heartbeats.
DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN ā 1.09 "Straight to Hell"
Daredevil Season 2 Episode 12 - The Dark at the End of the Tunnel
man, that matt-frank-karen love triangle is gonna hit like crack when ddba season 2 comes out in 3 years
No because when Frank was listening to the radio and brought his drink up for a sip, the INSTANT they said "the blonde" he put it down.
If you weren't watching Daredevil and the Punisher when they were coming out it may not be obvious to you-
But the Karen and Frank chemistry was an accident. They caught lightning in a bottle between two characters who never even interact in the comics, but the actors just go crazy in a room with each other.
And they assumed that the Punisher's audience skewed heavily male, that they'd refuse to watch anything not already established in the comics, and that they'd scorn any new plot where The Punisher feels love for anyone, so the writers/producers never fully went there. Even though they clearly know that Frank is made all the more interesting, all the more tragic, when he's not just wallowing in grief for a lost family- he's actively denying the potential of healing and love with a new person. He's consistently being offered a redemptive escape from the violent path he's chosen and he consistently denies it, even though it's clear as day how badly he wants it. That's a more interesting choice! It makes him more pathetic and self-denying, it shows him thinking that he doesn't deserve healing, it shows his conflicted awareness of his own morality, it makes him worse, it makes it clear that this character is tragic instead of aspirational.
So they gave as many hints as they could. The near kiss in the elevator, Karen's heartbeat, the dress Maria wears in his last vision of her (as he lets go of her hand) matching the fabric of the blouse Karen wore the first time he ever saw her, Karen insisting he try to love someone else instead of another war, Micro saying "that's my family that's my wife" and Frank responding "so is Karen." They made it as obvious as they could without actually saying it because they didn't want to piss off the fan base who wants Frank to be a static, stoic, one dimensional vengeance machine.
But now they're back after SEVEN YEARS and they're not fucking around. The first time they're on screen together it is Textually Acknowledged and Stated Out Loud that Frank Castle's heart does the fucking samba when he looks at Karen Page. Matt, the Human Polygraph Test, tells Karen that Frank loves her and that he knows how she feels about him too. (Not to even mention the way he looks at her and acts around her, because Jesus Christ, I have never seen anyone more obviously lovesick.)
This is wild. That's more than the writers really wanting to make it obvious but always hedging. That's more than the actors loading as much weight into each glance as possible because they're gunning for it so hard. It's not just hints, it's text. It's canon.
the āstay safeā whisper? longing stares?? matt hearing their heartbeats and it dawns on him?? when he hears āblondeā over the radio and gets up and leaves?? frank helping matt because karen asked him to??
forgive me father for sometimes i just say things
okay but now i wonder if Frank is gonna hunt down all of the corrupt cops and lunatics who stole his symbol to use as a symbol for hate... because I need real world far-right idiots who do that shit to be finally fucking called out by marvel for turning punisher into a hate symbol. it's about time art reflects real life.
end credit scene of frank had me dying. when he starts talking all nice and shit you know heās got something cookingššš
saying āi want himā about the character but not in a romantic or sexual way . i just Require him i need to Obtain him
people who don't experience hyperfixation don't know what it feels like to hyperfixate so much on something that it becomes not only your subject of obsession but also your source of happiness and literally the main reason why you still keep going; literal source of strength and life.
shoutout to my favorite fictional characters, favorite people, favorite ships, favorite movies, favorite tv shows, fanfics and archive of our own
Unbelievably spoilers for Daredevil: Born Again ep 9
So Iām INSANE about this shot. I clocked immediately there was so much going on and had to rewatch it, now Iām babbling and trying to do film analysis
After multiple scenes throughout the season using that super cool switch-up in focus and aspect ratio to show when Matt has his hearing focused somewhere else, in this case when we see Matt tilt his head, itās to show us his split focus.
Heās talking to Karen yes and heās listening to her, but heās verrrrry interested in Frankās reaction and heās locked in on it. And weāre meant to be too- we spend so long focused on Frank. Seriously itās such a long shot.
Matt and Karen are talking while Frank isnāt reacting in a traditional sense, but theyāre out of focus; itās all about Mr Castle right here, and his definitely-not-reacting reaction. But I bet a heartbeat doesnāt lie.
SHE HAS HIS PHONE NUMBER SHE CALLLED HIM SHE PICKED UP HER PHONE AND PHONE CALLED HIM ON THE TELEPHONE TO ASK HIM TO HELP AND HE DID IT HE SAID OKAY ON THE PHONE THE TELEPHONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TELEPHONES AND SHE ASKED HIM AND THEY KNOW EACH OTHERS TELEPHONE NUMBERS AND THEY USE THEIR PHONES TO HAVE PHONE CALL CONVERSATIONS
how it feels to wake up with āi heard your heartbeatsā
the fanfiction in my head is soooo good wish you guys could see this
karen page and frank castle in the same room no one talk to me karen page and frank castle looking at each other fondly heartbeats racing no one talk to me karen page calling frank castle on the phone she has his phone number after moving across the country for a year no one talk to me NO ONE TALK TO ME
they even had frank jealously prowling around while matt and karen talked like. i feel delirious. I didn't think we could win this much.
Karen called Frank and the very first thing he did was run to the barber to get a clean shave and a fresh trim... oh he's down bad.
i was ready for a single 5 second shot of awkward eye contact and we got: kastle canon kept in touch and make phone calls, frank shaving, getting hair cut, and wearing aftershave because he knew he was going to see karen, karen making the man grovel as frank tries to make amends through caffeine, āi donāt believe you donāt careā āyou asked me for a favour, i did itā āyes you didā, and THEIR HEARTBEATS????
iām sorry that i doubted you, ddba
I loved that one scene where Karen is patching up Matt in the foreground, but it's Castle in the background the camera is focused on. Because he's eavesdropping. He's been wondering the same thing--why did Karen call him? And then he decides to act macho, chewing pain killers and making out like getting shot doesn't hurt because he's damned if he'll look weaker than Murdock in front of her.
And of course Karen sees through it with a single look, leaving him stumbling over his words. There's too many that need to be said, a crushing wave that dams up at the back of his throat. Maybe over a cup of coffee he could let the words seep out. They could start with a cup, then another. Maybe dinner after that. Make up for lost time...
Pausing my regular content to scream about this frame work.
Frank not caring what anyone thinks of him, but as soon as karen page is disappointed in him, he has the saddest puppy dog eyes youāve ever seen.
Karen all but said sheād choose Frank over everything, including Matt, in season 2 of The Punisher. The only reason she didnāt is because Frank didnāt let her. He fought her on it because he thinks she deserves better.
And now 6 years later, Matt picks up on their feelings for each other IMMEDIATELY. After being present for just one conversation between them.
I never in a million years expected Kastle to be canon in any capacity. Itās surreal.
still giggling abt how while frank was looking at the love of his life, distracted, matt took the chance to call shotgun