Valid point, and now that it has been made it's ridiculous to even consider thinking otherwise. It's also one of the most hilarious things about Madara I've ever read and each word is better than the last. It's hard to be thoughtful when you are doubled over with laughter.
So I have an issue with common fandom interpretations of Hashirama and Madara. (Not together, but it applies to Hashimada too) Whenever I see Hashirama in the context of a relationship or the bedroom, he’s always either superderp or supertop. Whenever I see Madara, he’s either the smoothest dude ever or just ultra dominant.
Let me tell you something.
Madara is the man who turned Hashirama into a meme because he’s so incapable of articulating himself that when he saw his old friend and enemy he just decided to scream “HASHIRAMAAA” at him. This is the guy who can’t pee if someone looks at him while he’s doing it. This dude somehow managed to fail to convince his own clan, who he was presumably the leader and most powerful member of, to leave Konoha and ended up getting booted out.
By his own clan.
He failed charisma checks to get Hokage even when his friend and the only Hokage to exist at that point wanted him to be Hokage, and he failed so badly not one Uchiha joined him when he stormed out.
He self destructed partly because he can’t figure out that children are kind of important to have, because he saw them as brats running around his ankles. We see him with no personal bonds other than his siblings (primarily the one brother he had during his time with Hashirama) and Hashirama, and while he does manipulate quite well, it’s with violence and controlling circumstances. When he gets to ramble he sounds like a crazy old man.
He literally could not convince his own best friend to see things his way and he was one of the ones who founded the village in the first place.
Meanwhile, Hashirama became Hokage, founded and grew a village, forged the first peace between the nations, and had a wife and children. He convinced thousands of people, even those who were his enemies, to see things his way. He swayed Sasuke at least some small amount.
He had presence. He demanded respect and admiration from those around him, and even slapped down Tobirama. We’re also shown him manipulating and generally messing with people socially, not by heavily traumatizing them into a broken mess and picking up the pieces.
My point is, almost certainly, the smooth frick of the pair is Hashirama. He might also be derp, he might or might not be super top, but Hashirama is the dude to look out for. One does not successfully create a (temporary but also lasting) peace and village structure out of chaos and war without being wily.
Madara, on the other hand, is savage, a little feral, and insanely laser focused. And ultimately ended up being manipulated by a plant, like every other Uchiha ever. So. Madara probably uses his chopsticks by gripping them with his fist, stabbing through the plate, and lighting anything on fire that refuses to be skewered.
His mating call is probably just to scream at the person he’s interested in.
I’m just saying.
There’s no indicator that he’s a smooth operator anywhere ever.
Ever.
If we are being technical about it, Obito definitely regretted a lot of political and economical miscalculations or coincidences he did not or could not predict 😅
Aside from every major or personally hurtful fail...
Frankly, I do not think Minato's death and everything around it would make it on the list of regrets - partially because, well, Minato did fail Kakashi, the only kid he was still responsible for, big time, and quite a lot of Obito's reasoning was about "well, I suffer, Kakashi suffers, let's drop this gig"; also, not being there for Rin (which was like a year before N's birth?). Main reason, though, imo is that Obito was in a very bad place then, conviction-wise. You can't convince me that he completely switched his world view in a year, it's just not done, his brain would not have dropped the associations and thought patterns it got used to so fast. So, he definitely felt at least somewhat guilty, after. And what do you do if you are guilty over something you did for "the greater good"? You rationalise why it was okay or a right/only decision. (See Dumbledore sending Harry to Dursley). The seal would have broken anyway, Kushina would definitely have died from it, Minato would likely still sacrifice himself one way or another, no matter if Obito made some rude small talk and controlled the beast or not. And the concept would have stuck to the point where it is a fact that Obito didn't question anymore.
Kiri is unlikely for the same reason, "Yagura would've still done it, I just chose the specific actions"/ "those kids would've died anyway, only causing even more bloodshed prior to that", etc. Plus, of course, personal vendetta.
Massacre? Dunno, really depends on what his relationship with the clan really was, if he had any positive interaction with anyone, if his grandma was still alive why is it never touched on??? If they were just a bunch of rich folk who refused to associate with him I guess it wouldn't be that hard. Besides, again, Danzo assigned Itachi to do it anyway. Ostracizing Uchiha? As far as I recall Obito did not do anything about it aside from controlling Kurama, so it was actually the justification, the proof of how rotten the world was, the fellow villagers hating so easily, Uchiha turning to violence as solution, Hokage allowing it because friendship goals. It's also easy to dehumanise people if you do not let them talk to you as you kill them after being absent for almost ten years. Just another shinobi to fall, and what do a last name and clan insignia even mean in the large picture?
Kisame is likely to be a regret. I'd feel guilty over being the reason for his death, especially since the secrets he was keeping were a moot point. Deidara, maybe, if we think that Obito liked the kid?
Aside from those, Onto does not strike me as a person who regrets the actions, unless they concerned specific people he cherished - and there were super few of those. Otherwise it's "Welp, I'm a bad apple, shame about it" and just embracing it all. I'd add Kakashi, but he was more of a collateral, except for when "Tobi" reveal happened, and the Chidori scene, but that does not really seem to count since it was part of the ongoing situation at that moment.
TL;DR
Not many regrets whatsoever. Maybe missing the shark and regretting making a fool of himself when negotiating for trade routes through Kiri when he was like 17. Otherwise, he either felt like he made no difference because of the shinobi society's inherent violence and flaws, or had convinced himself he was right and justified even if originally he might've not thought so.
In one of my last posts, I mentioned that there are probably some actions that Obito has little or no regrets about doing. What do you think that would be?
While I do agree, it really is conditional. You have to remember that our society at large and the separate pockets of it in particular are still not only homophobic but often simply... unaware of the gay option existing (yeah, it mostly concerns kids and really sheltered youth. still). I personally was introduced to the idea of gay ship when I had a really "groundbreaking" and "original" idea of a fic where Harry was a girl and (*gasp*) Draco fell for him. This was the turning point where I was introduced to the amount of non-gb fics with the pairing and realized that if I wanted more, those were the ones to go to. (It's also my main argument for why Drarry really, really works.)
Genderbend used for making gay ships into het ones is not the nicest thing out there, but it has its uses - and at least these fics are a good proof of there being gay chemistry that is obvious even to het-only people ;)
If you genderbend only 1 character in a gay ship to make it straight, I will be squaring up with you when we meet in hell.
This speaks to me on spiritual level.
Read somewhere that for Aztecs it was considered dishonourable to be unable to take their enemies in alive (because then they couldn’t be sacrificed alive but besides the point). Would be nice if we could think of the inability of five trained people to take in one inebriated lunatic as their failure at their job, even without being a part of a bloodthirsty cult.
Got permanently banned from a subreddit for saying law enforcement shooting someone dead in the street was still a bad thing even when the victim was a violent right-wing fanatic.
Gotta say, I did not expect that to be such a controversial statement. So repeating it here: law enforcement shouldn't kill people. Even violent assholes have a right to be taken in alive, and it's a failure of practice and policy when someone is killed in the process of an arrest.
To be fair, he IS an Uchiha. What else is he supposed to make if not a scene? Pottery? That spot's filled, I'm afraid.
you just didn't have to do it, honey. you didn't have to if you didn't want to deal with him anymore. oh, you just wanted to show off in front of your man and be like "look it's me, will you find out it's me?" well fuck he will. as you wish.
As a Ukrainian I feel this so much. Like, yeah, I sure am thankful that I am not under bombing anymore that my biggest worry is whether I should look for a temporary course at some university or would rather prefer some job, but the knowledge that I only get all of this so easily because I am white(ish, but whatever) and because my nation mostly is, and because we are in Europe and it's harder to wave away somebody in day's car travel from you, etc. etc.
Many of Ukrainians are bitter over NATO wringing its hands, German and French large companies not withdrawing from Russian market and so on, but for me personally the worst part was when I got in and out of the refugee camp within a day, while there were people there who stayed for a year - and quite possibly will for another (after all of what they can still be shipped back).
The Suicide Club, or the Adventures of a Titled Person, 1981 has this exact thing and the effect is just as good as described.
Concept: Sherlock Holmes adaptation with Watson providing film noir style voiceover narration, except it’s soon apparent that Watson is a somewhat less-than-reliable narrator.
Though the tone and content of Watson’s voiceover is broadly consistent with the original stories, when compared with the accompanying on-screen events it becomes clear that Watson-the-narrator is frequently, at the very least, delicately understating how things really went down, and occasionally lying through his teeth, particularly when the on-screen “truth” would make Holmes or himself look foolish.
While neither the version of events given by the narration nor the version of events concurrently depicted on screen are particularly comedic in themselves, the combined effect of juxtaposing the two is often outright farcical.
What are the two things I notice, you ask?
Obito looks the most dorito-shaped in the last pic. Love it. Lil boy raised on mokuton steroids 💕💕
Wildly off topic but Kakashi looks like Sakumo's spitting image here. Adorable on one hand, distressing considering which phase of Sakumo's life he looks the most like on another.
The 4th ninja war: virgin villain vs chad pervert
He does look like exactly the actor for such a character, tho.
SO SOMEHOW MY YAOI SHIRT ENDED UP IN MY DAD’S LAUNDRY BASKET HELP I CAN’T BREATHE
I am horrified at the implication that Apple PCs don't have USB ports. Even happier than usual to never having owned Apple anything if that's true. Still hoping I have misinterpreted that part, though.
for the record this IS an apple hate zone yes I have an android phone yes I have a bulky PC with its own USB port yes I use wired headphones. you can go ahead and try to fight me on it but keep in mind how scrappy I must be considering I’m broke as shit and have nothing to lose and can guarantee my phone screen won’t shatter in the brawl