Justin sitting on the couch with Clay and Jessica and saying "i love you guys" in that ridiculous tone is everything
Seriously you can like Alex, and I liked him too, but he pushed an immobile person into freezing water and watched him drown. You can't say it's okay, because it fucking isn't.
And the fact that he didn't have the guts to confess when the police literally arrested Clay in front of the whole school, or when Zach was ready to take the blame, just shows that he is weak. I'm sorry to break it, but it doesn't sum up to a good person
ARE
YOU
NOT AWARE OF
HOW HE
ESCAPED JUVIE
YOU MORON
YOU FUCKING IDIOT
SERIOUSLY
NOT A LIAR
JESUS CHRIST
Okay, you can think whatever you want of the new 13 reasons why season, but one thing we can all agree on - this season really showed guys showing affection towards each other and saying "i love you" and that's great. We don't see that very often, and it's important to show that men can be affectionate with their friends and that's what I'm thankful for this season
Ani - is - so - annoying
I mean I don't even want to explain it. I don't judge her or I don't mean she is a terrible character
But she is, in fact, annoying.
a gdyby tak napisać oneshota z 13 powodów, ale z charlexem?
fabuła w stylu: charlie nagrywa kasety, by to, co czuli hannah, clay, alex, zach i inni? by po prosić ludzi, by przestali wstawiać się za monty’m i brycem, bo zasłużyli na swój los? robi to w ramach projektu uświadamiającego młodzież o tym, że słowa potrafią ranić do tego stopnia, że niektórzy nie wytrzymują?
The reasons why Ani’s character was brought into the story are understandable. Yes, she’s a plot device for Bryce’s storyline, and she’s the new narrator. On top of that, she’s supposed to be the audience surrogate. She’s the new girl coming into this group of kids, and just like us she tries to figure out Bryce’s murder and all the personal drama that comes along. However, this concept obviously fails (seriously, after season 3 all people could talk about was how much they hated Ani). So where did it all go wrong, exactly?
The biggest problem with Ani’s character is by far her annoying personality. She’s nosy, spying on everyone and interfering with their lives. Surprisingly this reserved group of teenagers actually opens up to her. After everything that went on you would expect them to be more picky with who they trust. Characters don’t just confide in her, they feel obligated to justify themselves in her eyes. Like she’s some sort of angel.
Ani’s the one demanding the truth from everyone, yet she’s the one who keeps secrets. Her relationship with Bryce was meant to paint Bryce as a human being. In no way did Bryce deserve any redemption for his crimes, but it was essential to recognize him as a human, not a monster. Because once we see somebody as a monster, it becomes impossible to destroy them, they start to seem stronger than we are.
No matter how important it was to send this message, it didn’t do any favors to Ani’s character. She sleeps with Bryce knowing that he’s a rapist. She defends him in front of Clay, like a true rapist apologist. Ani with her hero complex wants to fix everyone, that’s why she’s all up in their business, that’s why she gets involved with Bryce. Unfortunately, she refuses to admit her own imperfection. She is a hypocrite. Even though at the end she acknowledges that sleeping with Bryce was the worst thing she’d ever done, it doesn’t excuse her actions.
Introducing a new character into an existing dynamic is quite tricky. Over the seasons the audience grew to love the established characters. So when you let someone new share screen time with the beloved cast, the newbie should be captivating enough. Moreover, it is unfair for a new character to take away too much screen time from the numerous preexisting cast. It is especially irritating when this character is condescending towards the ones who’ve been there since day one and comes with no character development. That again raises the question: why would you make such a dislikable character (not presented as an antagonist) a main one?
The significant part of Ani’s character is the narration of the season. It’s one of the reasons for introducing her character at all… But was narration even necessary in season 3?
Season 1 had Hannah’s voiceover via tapes because the plot revolved around her, we were seeing life through her eyes. She was the one telling the story. The plot couldn’t go on without it. Narration in season 2 could’ve been avoided, however that season already had a different feel to it, so the writers didn’t want to shock the audience completely by the absence of a voiceover. The narration helped to concentrate on particular parts of the story, and ramifications that the tapes left on each character. We got to see events from different perspectives, not just Clay and Hannah’s.
Nevertheless, narration in season 3 was unnecessary and poorly done. It is annoying as it is, when somebody tells the audience everything that’s going on when we can clearly see that for ourselves, but when it comes from a dislikable character it is twice as bad. Narration brings something to the story when it makes the story more interesting, when it’s revealing something new. (That’s why inner monologues actually work, when written well). On the contrary, Ani’s never-ending story, full of lies and vague pretentious phrases, is boring and distracting from the plot.
Finally, let’s touch upon the whole – Ani being Clay’s love interest – thing. Since Hannah’s gone (and her ghost manifested by Clay as well) the main character needs another sidekick who’ll follow him around, because the audience needs Clay to communicate his feelings and theories at all times (which could be avoided, were Clay the narrator), and apparently Justin and Tony weren’t worthy enough to fit the part of his confidant.
Anyway, Clay and Ani being friends was fine, but where did this forceful romantic plotline come from? Dear writers, your main character does not always have to be in a relationship! We won’t respect Clay less just because he doesn’t get the girl. Honestly, most people will relate to him even more. Furthermore, it is important to show viewers, especially younger ones, that it is normal not to have a crush or date. The majority of teens doesn’t date in high school, and it’s frustrating to see characters always end up with somebody, like without that they can’t be complete or happy.
To be candid, Clay and Ani didn’t seem to have any chemistry. Both, their kiss and Ani telling her mom they’re dating, were unanticipated and out of place. There was no natural progression for them to be together at the end. After Clay finally sees Ani the way the viewers did all this time (ep 7), it’s difficult to find the moment where he starts to like her again or forgives her… Just because Ani comes up with the plan to save Alex from jail, it means Clay is in love with her? Clay? Angsty Clay who holds grudges and wants to take revenge on people (e.g. see season 1)? It’s hard to buy it.
There was a theory that S3 was actually supposed to be narrated by Sheri. Unfortunately, Ajiona Alexus left the show. But could you imagine how much better would Sheri be instead of Ani. Sheri is a well developed character since season 1, who is liked by a lot of viewers. She has preexisting relationships with all the main characters, so it would be natural of them to confide in her. Not to mention her and Clay already had a thing in S1, so them ending up together in S3 would be logical and satisfying. Even if the concept of Sheri being the narrator couldn’t be brought to life, the next choice for that role would certainly be Clay aka the main character, not just a random new girl.
Taking into account the upcoming season 4, what can there be done to repair the damage? Even though some may argue it’s the easiest decision, I doubt that Ani’s character will be just written off (no matter how much I want it). I see only two possible outcomes. Either her character gets way less screen time, or she gets outstanding character development, although I have no idea what there could be done for the audience to like her. At last, it is vital that the writers get rid of her narration.
I hope the flaws of the last season will be fixed, because I’m excited to see where the story takes us next, and I don’t want to suffer through Ani’s character to find out.
So was I the only one who thought the new girl who took Hannah’s locker was going to be a recurrent character?
Just me?
Altight.
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Me may 17th: I’m gonna watch one episode of season 2 13rw each day. I’m not gonna binge.
Me may 19th at 7am: I watched it all.
Alex: Whats your favorite letter, bro?
Justin: What, bro?
Alex:
Justin: Uhh i guess J? I don't know bro!
Alex: Mine is U bro.
Justin: Bro.
Tw: everything
When the show first came I didn’t like any of the normal characters people would like I liked bryce, monty, and justin. But as time went on I kept liking them I kept sticking by them because they all had stuff going on in their personal lives now I know that is not an excuse for what bryce did to those girls but he truly was trying to change in season 3 he was trying to become a better person and you could see that he dropped his friendship with monty who was like a brother to him to help tyler. He tried to apoligoze to Ms.Baker he wanted to be better but the show thought hey lets kill the person that is trying to be better.
Monty was like me in many ways struggling with his sexuality and being a bully because his life and his home life was terrible he however did not try to redeem himself he stayed the same monty that we all knew from the past seasons the one that assulted tyler with a fucking mop handle the person that kept getting into fights. But you could see the very subtle change in him when he became more and more comfortable with who he was as a gay man but then Clay fucking jensen had to go and frame monty for the murder which led to him dying in prison.
now onto the real reason I made this post season 4 of this show that should have ended in season 2. Now we all know that clay is fucking crazy but this season they took it really far and showed us a boy who was loosing himself even more every day he kept seeing bryce and monty he knew deep down that he kept seeing them because he was guilty he was fucking guilty. The one good thing I think about this season was that we got to see tony’s struggle with trying to get his family back and we saw tony grow as a person. Alex being gay what a fucking shock its not like we could all tell from the beginning but I am happy for him I truly am. Justin now that shit fucking hurts because he was doing so well and I could relate to him I was an addict for a few years but I got help and Became better just like him he applied for collage hell he got aceppted to collage but nope now they have to tell the collage borad or whatever that he died of AIDs and imagine how hard that must of been for Brandon flynn the actor that play’s justin he is a gay man but i do commend him for playing the part so well.