Goncharov - Blog Posts
Rewatched Goncharov (1973) and did a few studies of my favourite scenes
Me and "The Fonz" at the premiere of Goncharov (1973) at Grauman's Chinese Theatre.
Goncharov is a fake movie that does not exist, but now the line "if we really were in love you wouldn't have missed" will live rent free in my mind until I die.
Everybody: -*Arguing over the Clocktower vs Apple Imagery*- Me: -*Waiting for the Lady in Glasses analysis to start up again*-
Goncharov dir. Martin Scorsese
I know, it sucks that you can’t find it on any streaming services. You can still pirate it tho
While making dinner tonight, I very very fleetingly, but very seriously and legitimately thought “I should watch Goncharov tonight”
And then I Remembered.
Not Goncherov tho. That one totally lives up to the hype
it is so sick and twisted that not every movie that looks good in tumblr gifs is actually good
Alr. I'm sad now.
When I first entered Tumblr there was this post about a mafia gay tragic story and I really wanted to watch it.
I put it into my watch list.
And just a few hours ago. My friend told me it wasn't real.
LOOK. IT'S ON MY LIST
WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S A FAKE MOVIE YOU TUMBLRINA'S MADE?!
WHAT DO YOU MEAN GONCHAROV IS FAKE. WHAT DO YOU MEAN. WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!?!?!!!
CAUSE DAWG. WHY.
I second this, I was late to the first one. Like ik the point is that it’s spontaneous or whatever but mass hallucinations are fun gonch dang it!
can we PLEASE start goncharov posting again i miss it so bad
I remember this film! Genuinely a childhood favourite, not that I should have watched this as a kid haha
Rewatched Goncharov (1973) and did a few studies of my favourite scenes
Can we talk about Goncharov's sound for a moment please?
I know this is tumblr so we've mostly gotta do extended examination of the themes and fanfic about the gay subtext that's absolutely there between Goncharov and Andrey and the subtext we all wishing was actually there between Katya and Sophia (as I'm sure has been point out, in the original script, it was "You could have been my *son*", not *sun*, which is a whole different mess of subtext, and the other reading only came about because of the lousy closed captioning on the one VHS release). But so much of what makes the film so involving and powerful is the *sound*.
And I know, too, that it's incredibly hard to find a version that sounds good -- I was so lucky to see a 16mm print at a now-closed arthouse theater years ago, and the sound was an absolute revelation over the aged VHS tapes we normally see. But if you can find a version with proper sound somehow, absolutely do, and listen with the best sound system you can. I also saw a version pop up on a local cable channel in Denver of all places once that had pretty decent sound, so I know that version is out there somewhere!
The way each clock and watch ticks different ways that relate to the mood and character. Listen especially to how Goncharov's has a barely-perceptible stutter - it's such an old watch, one he has cherished, but he doesn't have time to repair it. And the way the seconds ticking on it slow just a little each time he looks at it. (My mom's old VHS of it was so worn I couldn't even hear it on her copy when she showed it to me as a kid!)
Or the gunshots! I miss the expressionistic way 70s and 80s movies had handguns sound like cannons to get across how loud and powerful guns are in general, but this was one of the first to really push that idea, and the way you *feel* the impact has been replicated so rarely.
And it's all the more impressive because Walter Murch only had a few weeks to work on this between American Graffiti and The Conversation! It's partly why I believe the rumors that George Lucas actually did a lot of the sound mixing uncredited - not because Murch wasn't good enough to do this, but because there's just no way he had enough... well, enough time.
Anyway, hope at some point this gets a restored release so we can properly appreciate some of the craftsmanship that's been all-but-lost in what few versions are out there.
Anybody else remember the beautiful handpainted opening credits to Goncharov? The stills of once lively lilies, now wilted and forgotten? The dark unnamed graves for those we will never know? The bloodied knife sat next to a glass of untouched red wine?? A single cigarette shared between two intertwined hands??? The burning money??? The smoking gun??? The red curtain that reminds us it's just a show before the drawn panel splits open to reveal the opening scene of a softly crackling fireplace???? Goncharov's back to the audience, silence filled only by that burning sound????
Every single thing in that opening was just foreshadowing what's to come, all played over by the magnificently melancholic main theme. And it was fucking awesome.
Hannibal Season 4 and Goncharov 2 have the same release date!! Get ready for Gonchibal!!
Goncharov Lore Thus Far, based on the top tumblr post results
Main cast are Goncharov himself, his wife Katya (née Michailov), and Andrey
One side character is named Mario Ambrosini. He is described as a “sad boi” and is involved in gambling.
Set in Naples and involving a drug ring/mafia. The plot seems to involve Russian organized crime attempting to get a foothold in Italy.
There is a Boat Scene. Katya survives via resourcefulness.
Andrey and Goncharov have a substantial amount of homoeroticism. Andrey also has an internet in Katya. This forms a true love triangle.
At some point, Katya threatens to shoot Goncharov. This is framed as a Girlboss Moment.
There is also a Beer Bottle Scene.
Katya fakes her death.
I rewatched Goncharov (1973) cause of the hype and I needed to sketch something cause I can’t get these characters out of my mind like holy damn. why does this movie have so many killer quotes ;_;
so much gender envy
the disorders this movie gives me
Ja echt?? Wieso muss das immer sein?! Es ist mir immer so peinlich wenn ich erzähle wie mein Lieblingsfilm heißt. Sie hätten einfach den Orginal Titel übernehmen können.
Ich glaube das schlimmste an der deutschen Übersetzung von Goncharov ist, dass sie es "Goncharov - Schüsse in Rom" genannt haben. Hallo?? Es gibt eine Szene die in Rom spielt. Eine.
if you think about it it’s only fair that Character With No Canon Physical Description is declared sexiest man by popular vote. on the Critically Acclaimed Movie That Doesn’t Fucking Exist website
