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Weiss redesign, I don’t really like how this one turned out.

Here’s some RWBY Redesign doodle. (I like to think Oscar looks up to Ruby a lot. He admires her unwavering optimism and determination. Ruby inspires him to want to do better, be better. In Vacuo Oscar could start wearing a cloak to honor her, similar to how Ruby wears a cloak to honor Summer. [Also the brooch that pins the cloak together is the same brooch Ozpin used to wear.])

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Hello again! I really liked your answer to my questions, I've read this post about 6 times already! (I really love it) So I want to ask you, what do you think will happen if Oscar drinks tea from the Ever After? I just really hope that in RWBY beyond episode 3 Oscar and Ruby came at the end to separate Oscar and Ozpin (not the soul in half, just stop the merge, but Oscar and Ozpin are still connected) and what do you think will happen after Oscar drinks tea and he and Oz return to the Vacuo?

sorry if here any mistakes I just used translato

Hi! Nice to hear from you again, and I'm glad you liked it. Now, this is a very interesting and very complicated question you've offered me. I like it. I'm gonna put it under the cut, because this... is going to take a while.

From what we've seen in the epilogues, in RWBY Beyond, Oscar is losing more and more of himself. Ozpin's losing himself too. They're losing themselves and each other to the merge and who'll they'll become together. It's stopping being Ozpin's experiences, Ozpin being the subject of fairytales, and starting to be Oscar referring to those past events as his.

If you think about it, the curse, the merge, is kind of like a really twisted, fucked up version of Ascension, where the choice of purpose is completely taken away instead. Ozma was given a task, a role, a purpose, a part to play in the story of the battle between light and dark, and that purpose has been passed on, whether anyone likes it or not. The answer, most often, is not.

In V8, we see Oscar frustrated with Ozpin's return, because he was starting to carve out his own role, figuring out who he wanted to be. That choice is being taken away from him, just like it was taken away from the person Ozpin used to be, taken away from the King of Vale, again and again thousands of years past.

I think a meeting between Oscar, Ozpin, and The Blacksmith would be very, very interesting, particularly in her relationship with the Brothers.

The Blacksmith created them. She said "The Brothers built homes for [the Everafterans], and gave them roles to play". Would she see nothing wrong with the way the Brothers acted, the role they assigned to Ozma and his line? The Blacksmith doesn't seem to be able to know what happens in Remnant, only catching glimpses of it in the humans who fall into the Ever After. The Blacksmith seems to like what she sees, calling humans "Remarkable things [the Brothers] accomplished". What would she think about Oscar and Ozpin?

She seems to value souls, they move through her domain afterall, and she seemed to like it when Ruby asked after "The souls that are moving on to whatever they become next". But the line of Ozma doesn't get to move on when they die. Their souls merge with others, they are subsumed, they are an amalgamation, they are something that has never been before, they are not something they want to be. Would the Blacksmith be mad at the Brothers for what has been done to dozens of hundreds of innocent souls? She doesn't seem capable of condemnation, that is not her purpose, but would empathy be shown for the line of Ozma, including ones past?

The Blacksmith does feel emotions, she's not a robot, she's glad to see Jaune, she finds joy in creating, the "not knowing". Would she find Oscar and Oz a fascinating creation? Or would she be dismayed at how little there is to know, how little choice there is. Everafterans die, and choose what to become next through Ascension. Oz dies, doesn't choose where he goes, doesn't choose where they become, doesn't choose a purpose that can we even really say is his anymore? When they've become so many people, does Ozma's original choice really belong to them anymore?

As always with the line of Ozma, it is a question of choice, identity, and free will.

How The Blacksmith would feel about it, act about it, think about it, is a very interesting question. But there is the question of if she can do anything about it.

Yes, The Tree/Blacksmith made the Brothers, and the Brothers made humans, and the Blacksmith obviously has influence over the humans who do end up in her domain. Would that be enough to supercede the curse? The will of the Brother of Light? The purpose he gave Ozma and every single soul who came after? It'd be interesting if The Blacksmith couldn't. If the Brother's intercession would be necessary to fix what they broke, what they started. But that's not the question here!

Enough hypotheticals, it's time to get down to it. In this scenario, we'll go with Oscar and Oz being over halfway merged, probably a lot merged by this point, but still two distinct entities in their own right. The Blacksmith, whatever her feelings about it, can help, allowing Oscar and Oz to choose their purpose and who they'll become.

I've seen in the fandom a lot that a turning point for Oscar would be/will be when he gets his own weapon. Weapons are so important in RWBY, Oscar being able to choose what weapon he gets, the name, the meaning behind it rather than one he inherits is so important. That carries over easily to the Blacksmith and the choices/weapons she presents.

Choosing to be yourself is a legitimate option when it comes to The Blacksmith! Oscar would definitely choose to be himself, that's without question, even if he's not sure who that himself is, he's willing to make it. I think that would best go down if instead of choosing one of the weapons The Blacksmith presents or choosing Long Memory, Oscar makes his own. I personally think it would be very cool if The Blacksmith let Oscar use her forge to make his own weapon, make his own self, make who he chooses to be.

I think that extra effort to physically make his own weapon would also be important. There's a lot more weight there, the weight of a purpose assigned, the weight of so, so many souls behind him, clinging to him. I think in that moment, Oscar would be straining to go forward and, like all parents, Ozpin would have to make the choice to let go. Let Oscar move forward into the unknown instead of the path laid before them, let go even though it's hard, even though it's scary, because letting children choose their own paths and who they are is very, very important.

Oscar being able to literally forge his own identity, his own path, would be both symbolically appropriate and also very cool.

Now, we also have to consider what would happen to Oz. Both Ozpin and the entire line before him, whatever small, pedantic difference there may be. I think it's too late to let the previous souls go. They're merged, and there's no separating them. They're gone. They're here but they're gone. There's only Ozpin left. But what that would mean, well, that's up to Ozpin. He'd have to make his own choice on who he is, who he becomes, what his purpose is.

I... don't think he'd choose to be himself. I think he'd be so, so tired of the purpose he was assigned. I think he'd like to make his own decision, and I think he'd choose to be someone else. Let the line of Ozma end, expire, be no more. He would choose to be someone else. The Blacksmith said, "Choose for yourself one who can leave your burdens behind or choose one who would be enough to bear them". This is what she said to Ruby, so it's not entirely applicable, but the sentiment is there.

I think Ozpin would choose to be someone else. Someone who isn't so embittered by betrayl that they can still trust. Someone who can see the best in people, who can continue to reach out. Someone who doesn't give up, doesn't run away. Oscar showed him someone better to be, tried to push him to be that person. And now he can take that final step, and become someone else with a far better purpose than had been handed down to him by the Brothers.

He can become someone kind.

That is who he wants to be. Kind enough to reach out, kind enough to trust, kind enough to stay even when he's afraid, kind enough to reach out like Oscar did to Emerald, kind enough to fix a broken heart like in Hazel and perhaps... even like in Salem.

Oscar and Ozpin would return to Vacuo together, Oscar the most himself he's ever been, and Ozpin happy to be someone else entirely, but no matter what, they'd stick together.

I think that would be a good way for it to go.

Hi Lira! Good to see you here. Do you have any Ozpin Lives Au headcanons? And do you have any Oscar&Ozpin vol.4 headcanons?

Hey! I was pretty excited to see you on here too, if the spam liking your posts wasn't any indication, lol. And oh boy do I have a lot to say, I'm just gonna put it under the cut.

Okay. So. For Ozpin Lives AUs. There's so many ways to go about it. I'm a fan of Ozpin Lives but with Consequences of the Soul kind, because how else are you supposed to tie in our favourite farm boy? Whether this is some kind of half baked merge, or a kind of platonic soulmates, or just a Connection, Ozpin deserves a chance to actually parent the kid the universe randomly assigned to him.

I imagine he'd be very tactile, hands on shoulders, hair ruffles, holding hands, helping Oscar learn to fight, the whole nine yards.

And I imagine Oscar would, at some point, start to reciprocate. Initiating hugs, poking Ozpin, gently kicking Ozpin when Oscar thinks he's being stupid (Oscar should get to kick Ozpin in the shin at least once, he deserves it).

What's the point in being shy about physical contact when their very souls are intertwined?

Now in Haven, I feel like Qrow would be baffled by the presence of Oscar but more releived and focused on the fact that Ozpin's alive. Oscar has an easier time making friends with RNJR when he doesn't have their dead Headmaster in his head and constantly hovering over his shoulders. Though, I do think in contrast, Yang will be more aggressive with Ozpin since he's physically there and doesn't have Oscar as a kind of buffer between them.

In the Haven fight, Oscar would still be the one to fight Lionheart, because Ozpin will be very occupied with Hazel trying to beat his head in. I think there could be a sweet moment in there where Oscar covers for Ozpin there. Ozpin protests that this is his fight, but Oscar replies that they're supposed to be a team aren't they? And that means no one has to face anything alone! Hazel, of course, would get even more pissed off at what he sees as another child trying to fight Ozpin's battles so the moment is quickly broken up.

Now, when it comes to Jinn... it's hard to say. RWBYQ will definitely know that Ozpin's hiding things from them, but how would they get the Lamp's password without Oscar giving it to them? And without Oscar in Ozpin's head and vice versa, how would they even get there? I don't think it makes sense for them to get the Lamp's password, though I definitely think they'll be frosty with Ozpin because they know he's hiding things from them, they just can't tell how much.

Now the Apathy, however... oh boy. With all of Ozpin's repressed trauma I expect he'd be taken the fuck out. Could probably fit in a reveal in there, with the Apathy impacting Ozpin's ability to see the point of hiding his secrets since Salem's unkillable anyways, and they never did technically get a divorce and killing your spouse is frowned on though that hasn't stopped her yet and wow he's so useless at protecting people, all of his children have died, he's so sorry to Oscar for bringing him into this, he's just getting another one of his kids killed-.

Yeah. I. I really don't think Ozpin and the Apathy would get along.

(I know you asked for Ozpin Lives AU headcanons but you're getting an entire AU, whoops.)

Jaune definitely punches Ozpin in the face in Argus. No argument there. I do feel like Oscar would still go off on his own to go shopping and also have some time alone to reflect. What does he really want out of this? He's just another one of Ozpin's kids, how much does he really matter? He's not a Huntsman either, he's the youngest of everyone, just a kid, is he a burden? In the end, I feel like Oscar would come to the conclusion that he's not stuck here, but he wants to be here. He wants to do more, he wants to help, he wants to fight. It might have felt like he was just getting dragged along from his Aunt's farm but now... Now it's his choice. And he chooses to fight. He chooses to save lives. He chooses to stay. He chooses Ozpin.

Ozpin, meanwhile, is freaking the fuck out over where his kid went. Everyone's kind of shocked to see how much their perpetually in control Headmaster is panicking, meanwhile Ozpin's in the corner catastrophizing because oh no, what if he's been kidnapped what if he tried to go home but then got kidnapped what if there was a Grimm attack what if he's dead-.

Yeah. Panicking. Ozpin hugs the life out of Oscar when they see each other again (codependency says what) and doesn't even bother trying to play it off. Cue heartfelt speech of how though he may seem implaceable, he deeply cares for people. He cares for his friends, his students, his kids. He thought the best way to keep people safe, keep his friends safe, was to seem invincible, and the only way to do that was to keep everyone at arms length. But looking at everyone, they find strength in their closeness, and not letting people know how much they mean to him seems to only have been hurting them in the long run. Cue promises to do his best and to try to trust other people more. Oscar's still grounded for the heart attack he gave Ozpin (hey!).

The Cordovan issue is not automatically fixed. Ozpin lost his scroll and by extension his ID when Beacon fell. Cordovan thinks there's no way this burn scarred ragamuffin is the former Headmaster of Beacon Academy, fraud is a crime you know! They still steal an airship. Oscar gets to commit a felony. As a treat.

Now Atlas is... hmm, a toss up based on how you characterize Ironwood. I believe he has the potential to make the right decisions, to be a good person, but he also very much obviously has the capacity to make terrible decisions and be a bastard. Would having Ozpin there fix that? Fuck if I know! Still won't stop Salem from showing up.

Now, for funsies, I think Ozpin should be the one getting kidnapped by the Hound. Let him be a Damsel in Distress, it'll be fun. Oscar should get to go rescue his father figure, it'll be enriching. Bonding time in the evil whale!

That's as far as I've got for Ozpin Lives AU (headcanons, I wrote so much, this was just supposed to be headcanons, ahhh-). Now for Oscar and Ozpin volume 4 headcanons!

In the show Oscar seems to spend most of the time ignoring Ozpin where he can, so it'd be up to Ozpin to fill the silence. I think Ozpin tells stories about people he once knew, about heroes. Teams at Beacon when he was a Headmaster, teams when he was a student, the people that were the basis for fairytales and ones that have been forgotten to time.

Oscar ignores the fact that he can picture the faces of every single person his hallucination talks about. Though the stories are nice.

But less nice stories would be the nightmares. Oscar definitely has nightmares of Beacon's Fall, Ozpin's death, past deaths as well. He has hardly gotten a single good night's rest since Ozpin showed up in his head.

I think more than just breathing exercises and talking Oscar through his panic, I think it'd be cool if Ozpin taught Oscar how Huntsmen check themselves for wounds. Adrenaline can numb pain, and Aura could be actively healing the wounds too, but that doesn't mean they aren't there. It's both educational and grounding, allowing Oscar to root himself in his body and not in the body of the person who he just remembered (lived) dying.

Ozpin tries to hide it but he feels very guilty for these nightmares. He knows they come from him.

Immediately after these nightmares is the most Oscar's willing to engage with Ozpin at the beginning, before Oscar accepts that this is happening, that it's real.

As you can see I have a lot of thoughts about this. Thank you for the ask! ✨️❤️🧡💛💚💙💜✨️

RWBY Theory

I am pretty sure someone already has this one somewhere but I think the Theory that Winter Schnee could be the winter maiden is fairly common right? It's not only the name but also is the a incredible badass and a young women. She could have been introduced to Ozpin through Ironwood and they made her a maiden. Or she knew the former maiden, whatever you know what I mean...

BUT right now I had the thought...

Weiß thought her sister was in Haven right? And of course she wasn't because all troupes got called back to atlas. What if that wasn't the only reason she was ordered back?

What if it was because they want to keep the winter maiden safe and concluded that couldn't be done in haven?

I dunno it just popped into my head so please tell me what you think.

Reincarnation Apple [RWBY Animation]

I absolutely LOVE this song and when I heard the absolute banger english cover by Senna Fox I knew I wanted to animate smth Ozcarnation related for it! So here ya go :)

Cover used | Original song

finished the scene from this wip :) not long now til the rest is done!

i love how the only hand animated parts in this scene are the eyes.... and yet i spent 4 hours compositing everything else together bc i decided i needed 14 LAYERS of various effects

*oscar voice* why must i suffer like this?

Thoughts on General Ironwood :

I think I know why Ironwood arrested and spared Watts despite everything he one, but when Oscar, a child, has a morally correct opinion Ironwood tried to kill him (breaking his aura and shooting him off Atlas).

Ironwood can profit off of Watts. Watts is a part of Salem’s inner circle, and he’s a genius who managed to take down Atlas like it was nothing, because he’s the reason Atlas is as advanced and secure in Remnant. While Ironwood knows that Salem most likely won’t care about what happens to Watts and he can’t use the man to trade for Atlas’s safety, Watts still has information Ironwood can use.

Oscar, on the other hand, has none of that. While Ironwood could have possibly used Oscar and given him up to Salem, he still wants to defeat Salem. He doesn’t want the Relics in her hands. And Oscar, as one of Ozma’s reincarnations, could gain memories or learn about the other Relics whereabouts. While it’s known that they’re kept in Huntsmen Academies already, he could also learn at some point who the Maidens who can unlock them are. And since the Fall of Beacon, it is unknown where the Relic at Beacon currently is (to us viewers, at least).

Oscar is also a reincarnation. Ironwood’s only use for him was Ozpin, and since Ozpin wasn’t there, Ironwood had no use for Oscar. After all, he would just reincarnate at some point. If there is a merger at all, Ironwood knows that that hasn’t happened, so he probably would have expected Ozpin to reincarnate again, or that Oscar would instead and be sent possibly as far away from Ironwood as possible, separating him from his team and allies and no longer being an immediate threat to Ironwood’s plans.

Oscar offers nothing to aide Ironwood’s cause. Oscar doesn’t believe in the same things Ironwood does, he isn’t loyal to Ironwood and Ironwood only, so the General has no use to keep him around alive and kicking in Atlas.

Ironwood tried to kill him. He knowingly tried to kill a fourteen year old child and, from what it looks like, doesn’t have much remorse in doing so. He’s not a good man. He kept who he could benefit from alive, and those who aren’t loyal to him and his cause are criminals.

Edit : basically ironwood failed his vibe check

I couldn't find a 3d model for the long memory online, so I made my own, it's not perfect but... I think it's good enough.

Download link for blender:

It has my shading so it might not work for all.

And a finger on the monkey's paw curls!!

MAYA PYRRHA OMFG AND THEY FINALLY PUT MAYA OZPIN TO USE

OZPIN IS ALIVE (THEORY)

I am the only one who think that Ozpin is alive? I mean the villain said she can't wait to see Ozpin burn. That meas he can't be dead. Right????

-Maybe he is in captivity that is why nobody can find him.

-Maybe in the next volume Ruby and her team will rescue him as a payback.

-Maybe it is like the The Wizard of Oz. Ruby just like Dorothy going to search and find wizard Oz(pin). I mean at the end of the season she started to walk on a long road, with 4 partner. Dorothy done exactly the same thing. And she (probably) killed Cinder = Wicked Witch of the East before her journey. So we've got one (main) witch left.

- So i'm pretty sure that Ozpin is alive.

The further I read this, the more I headcanoned that ‘Mysterious Chessmaster Ozpin’ is a front that he puts on for literally anyone who isn’t his own staff or students.

From the interrogation room through initiation, he was gritting his teeth to keep all the Dad Energy from escaping.

He brought a goddamn plate of cookies the first time he ever talked to Ruby, probably just because Summer said how much she loved them at some point, it was probably Summer’s recipe.

Glynda came to show him how fake Jaune’s transcripts were and he probably tapped his mug on ‘Accept’ before she got two words out.

He let two teenage bandits enroll in his fight college to try to reform them.

People used to joke about it, but he probably does just wander the school looking for students who look troubled. He is/was a father, and now he has dozens of youths he is explicitly responsible for, many of whom are orphans. You cannot stop this guy giving guidance.

Ozpin keeps up the ‘Wizard’ act for the council, the citizens, and any of the applicants who aren’t students yet. Even other headmasters and their students, maybe. All to keep his dramatic image and his position as Headmaster. All so he can keep helping good kids be better so they can save the world.

I really love your idea of Uncle Oz. But in the early volumes, Ozpin was given the 'menacing, plotting' Dumbledore treatment. Which is weird, because by the time we have the backstory he's just genuinely a caring, wonderful person in an awful situation. Which is also weird, because the hands-off man we know doesn't map to the idea of who the guy must have been to set up the school in the first place. Oz seems like the prime example of the show actively not always knowing where it's going.

Especially since, looking back, I honestly believe that the vast majority of said “menacing, plotting Dumbledore treatment” came from viewer expectation and very little was built into the text. Meaning, this is the Harry Potter era watching a new show. We see an older, white, clearly powerful, somewhat eccentric headmaster and go, “AH HA. I know where this is heading,” even though canonically Ozpin barely does anything to generate those feelings in the story. I’ll admit the “You have silver eyes” line is easily the most damning - What does that mean?? What does he want with Ruby??? - and we have the moment where Yang comments that he’s “off” during the speech, but both of these things happen within the first few episodes. Following that, Ozpin’s mysterious/manipulative persona is obliterated. Not just through all the legitimately good things we see him doing (counseling Ruby, talking to Blake, bending rules to help deal with the White Fang, etc.) because admittedly that all could have still been a part of some larger manipulation. AKA, Ozpin is grooming this group to do his dirty work like Dumbledore groomed Harry. But that reveal never comes. Instead, Ozpin encourages the group to leave if it’s not their own, active decision to help. He doesn’t manipulate people into working for him, he deliberately discourages anyone with doubts from continuing on because doubts, as we’ve seen, lead to people betraying the cause. Just as importantly, the ‘shady headmaster’ persona fails because we learn what his secret is. What’s Ozpin hiding? The fact that there’s a war on. What’s he doing about that? Something nefarious or at least ethically dubious? Uh... no. Actually he’s just doing the best he can with limited options. It’s like if in Prisoner of Azkaban we got to follow Dumbledore’s perspective for multiple chapters, learned pretty much all there is to know about the war, and likewise confirmed that Dumbledore was never attempting something as horrible as raising a kid for slaughter.

Really, the text only starts treating Ozpin as legitimately shady around Volume 5 with the whole bird transformation stuff, which as we’ve discussed was just stupid. Then it was hinted that he had some other, terrible secret hidden away, we waited a whole volume to find out what it was... and then it wasn’t terrible at all. Salem is immortal? Anyone who thinks about this war for five minutes can figure that out. Is it Ozpin’s fault that Salem is immortal and trying to kill us all? Uh... no. No it’s not. So... why was he supposed to be shady again? 

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I must say I'm not pleased by the amount of Ozpin bashing I'm seeing during vol 9. This ain't the show's, fault, it's the viewers not understanding shit.

Specifically that the leader speech that Ozpin gave Ruby and fucked her up (and the same Ruby gave to Jaune, fucking HIM up in turn) is one that he also applies to himself 100%. We saw the consequences of that in vol 6, now we're seeing the consequences for Ruby and Jaune now.

Not gonna lie, Ozpin's advice did contribute to the way Ruby understands leadership's, and it is visible that his way of leading has rubbed off on Ruby quite a bit (I had a whole post on that a while ago)

BUT

The problem is people being allergic to nuance. You can be partially responsible for something, without meaning to, without being a bad person, without bashing a character.

Did Ozpin's advice lead to this situation in some ways ? Yes.

Was it meant to ? No.

Was it malicious advice ? No. In the context it was given, it was very good advice.

Was it hypocritical ? No. Ozpin acted exactly as he adviced Ruby to.

See the fun fact about giving advice, especially when you are a traumatized teacher, is that even when you mean well, even if you only wish to help, your own experience (or trauma) will "color" and impact the advice you give, and possibly make it flawed in some aspect. Does that make you an inherently bad person & teacher ?

No it makes you human, it makes for understandable & compelling character arcs, it gives us parallels. People just need to exerce some nuance really.

This is basically the same problem I have in the MHA fandom, where people who criticize All Might's teaching need to paint him as an inherently bad teacher & person. But actually, All Might has never given any consciously malicious advice to Izuku. He neve asked or expected for Izuku to do anything that he hasn't done himself and to himself. Self-sacrificial tendencies ? All Might has them in spades himself, and was never really given the room to acknowledge how bad they are. And yet he STILL hopes for Izuku to be safe (safer than him at least) and urges him to take care of himself and not act recklessly.

Being human, having trauma, offering advice based on your own experience can lead to flawed advice. That is interesting and compelling. It makes sense, and it leads to wonderful parallels and development. That doesn't make a character bad, nor does it mean that their entire advice & teaching was always terrible and that they should be burned at the stake.

To the person who made the “all of Ruby’s problems are Ozpin’s fault!” Post. Disrespectfully, and I mean this in the most rancid way possible, fuck off.

Ozpin is doing his best and is literally traumatized by the events and years leading up to where we’re at, the advice he gave to her in volume 1-2 about being a leader was genuine advice, how the fuck was he supposed to know it would’ve led to this, he didn’t do it maliciously stop acting like he did. He gave RWBY and JNPR an out from the war SEVERAL TIMES and they CHOSE not to. So don’t go saying that he manipulated them into the war or some other bullshit.

He kept all those secrets EXACTLY because of RWBY and CO’s reaction, he knew they were going to be mad which is why he didn’t want them involved in the first place.

God you people are fucking insufferable.

When you hate a character you people will find every reason you can possibly pull out of your ass to shit on them, which is wildly unhealthy tbh.

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What is your take on rwby chara's mbti types? I think

Weiss - xSTJ, thought that she was ESTJ at first but ISTJ makes a lot of sense too.

Winter - ESTJ

Pyrrha - ESFJ

Emerald - ISFJ (I've seen some ppl type her as INFJ but I don't see how she is a Ni dom?)

Whitley - ENTJ? I'm honestly not sure abt that..

Adam - fucked up xNFJ, probably INFJ (seen him typed as xNTJ but his delusional thinking process imo screams unhealthy Ti and I think his manipulation of Blake and the WF is more Fe than Te

Qrow - was thinking ISTP but with the more recent volumes I'm really not sure..

Penny - ENFP

Ozpin - Uuuuuh INTP maybe?? But I've seen some people type him as INFJ. INFJ 5w6 would make sense as to why he might appear as an INTP but idk..

Bartholomew- ENTP

Jaune - no fucking idea honestly

Ironwood - ENTJ

Sun - Seen ppl type him as ENFP but I don't see any Ne at all..,,ESFP?

Yang - ESxP, maybe ESTP

Cinder - INTJ

Mercury - ISTP

Oscar - ISFJ

Ren - ISTx?

Hello anon ! I see my love for typology hasn't gone unnoticed 😂 Thank you so much for the ask !

I prefer enneagram over MBTI because I find it easier to type; so fair warning that I'm not an authority on MBTI-typing. But I do have have an ongoing RWBY typing that includes MBTI sooo... here goes !

(I'm putting my ennea typings along with it, but not explaining them on this post)

➸ RWBYJNPR

Ruby • xNFP 6w7 9w1 2w3?

I just can't decide between the two fors Ruby because... it kind of goes both way ??? Like Ruby definitely feels as INFP for the first half of the series; she's got a clear Fi > Ne preference... But then when she develops her Tert in V6 it's just... Te ? And she really doesn't show much Si actually she fits more the Si inf vibe in the form of forgetting about bad memories and her mom until people dig it up and she's like "nooo !" ?? So it looks like Te > Si but also Fi > Ne; conclusion idfk

Weiss • ISTJ 1w2 6w5 3w4 sp/so

Clear Fi tert rearing its head along with the 1 so I'm going with ISTJ; I also never really saw any Ne. Her type isn't too disagreed upon so tell me if you want a lenghtier explanation.

Blake • ISFP 6w5 9w8 4w3 (in some order)

Wooh this might get the anger of some (i have experience with the INFJ typers) but Blake goddamn REEKS of Fi. Less so recently but for the first seasons oh my god. She straights up catch you by the shirt and tells you "I'm doing the right thing"; and said right thing is so heavily dependant on her own subjectives values, which is why Blake can't reconcile with the current White Fang; because she doesn't have a strong Je vision of "what objectively works in the end", she only sees actions in terms of immediate right and wrong, and this b&w dichotomy stems from herself. What the WF is doing is wrong and the circumstances don't matter for judging the morality of their actions (of course I'm not talking about murder here bc that's pretty wrong ALL THE TIME but for example the stealing occuring in V1 bc of the WF is a better example)

Yang • ESXP 7w8 8w7 2w3

I'm sorry about that but I can't help you on that aspect anon, I still can't make up my mind about whether Yang has Fi or Ti. I have seen arguments for both, and i'm not the best at picking up on Ti so it's hard for me to tell.

Jaune • ESFJ 6w7 3w2 9w1

No strong opinions on his MBTI, it's kinda just based on vibes

Nora • ENFP 6w7 9w8 3w2

Textbook ENFP, not much to say here x))

Pyrrha • XXFJ 2w1 1w2 6?

In my list Pyrrha is currently written down as ISFJ but that's mostly based on the general consensus and me wanting to get rid of the XX. I don't actually have any convincing arguments to decide on Ni or Si, so I could go either way if someone else makes their case well. I feel like she's Fe aux more than dom, but even about that I could change my mind. Pyrrha didn't have that much screentime in the end :((

Ren • ISTJ? 9w1 5w4 4w5

Ironically I'm not sure about his type, kind of like you. I've mentionned I'm not very good at picking up on Ti right ? And Ren was a background character before V4 really. I had him written down as ISTP for a while but I've seen some convincing arguments for ISTJ so I might lean toward that actually but who knows. The thing I'm very confident about is his 5 fix = )

➸ Faunus bonus

Sun • ESFP 7w6 2w3 9w1 so/sx

I don't see any Ne at all either so I don't understand the ENFP typings...?? Maybe the 7 stereotypes ? Imo Sun is just a very good boy; certified ESFP 7 himbo; triple positive sunshine !

Ilia • Ti-Fe axis ?

Again, not enough screentime for me to make an educated guess. My only certainty is : not high Fi. It's the source of their conflicts. Blake confidence in absolute right & wrong, tracing lines in the sand between acceptable & unacceptable. Whereas Ilia can only shake her head and say "Because it works", or cry out "I don't know what else to do !"

Adam • 3w4 8w7 6w5

I honestly don't really have much of an opinion about Adam's MBTI, i'm sorry anon ;; I don't know enough about how he thinks

➸ Oz-related things and his circle

Ozpin • INFJ 5w4 2w1 1w9

I would personally call him an INFJ. I... never really got INTP vibes from him ? I don't see the Fe inf work out with his interactions : he's always rather at ease, he knows how to navigate around people... His focus inherently lies on doing what's best for the "group", the people, humanity. Fx functions are both concerned with ethics, in different ways, and I think Oz reflects that well. He IS concerned with the moral weight of his actions, but it's a more adaptable and unpersonnal concern than Fi people. He regards Ironwood's soul machines as something wrong, but can still agree to use it if the situations demand it for example. So... if the INFJ + 5 makes sense to you, well that's what I'm typing him personally. I also feel like Ni fits him more than Ne. Ozpin has a very linear way of planning, he does use his fair share of symbolism in every day conversation... Even when taking decisions, he... kind of cares about the meaning of things a lot ? It's hard to explain but like; the way he highlights the difference between an army and a guardian, and the emotionnal response it brings. I don't know it feels like there's some Ni vibes in there x)

Oscar • ISFJ 9w8 6w7 3w2

Oscar's type honestly isn't the one I would have the easiest time explaining in lenght but yea. It's mostly vibes; also just like Ozpin he doesn't seem to have a particularly Fi reasonning. And he feels more grounded, I don't really remember any Ni so... yay ?

Ironwood • ENFJ 6w5 1w2 3w4 (pre-Vol8); ENTJ (post-Vol8)

Might be weird if you think he was a dictator from the start, but I kind of entertained the idea of Ironwood being Fe dom ? From his very first interaction it was very clear that he was a Je dom to me; he's all about objective results; he doesn't give off the "internal framework" or "personnal values" vibe AT ALL; so it was more a matter of picking Te or Fe. He LOOKS super Te don't get me wrong; but he also has an enneagram tritype that is very common amongst XXTJs (and TJs stereotypes thus derive from it). And just like Oz, his focus at all time seemed to be the greater good and doing what's best for the people still. So I was like... Eh, a "harsh" ENFJ I think that's interesting ? Plus Fe ethics actually derive from their environment, kinda like "everyone agrees that Y is wrong", and if you consider that James is from Atlas... Well his way of thinking and ethics align pretty well with the military.

His character took a turn for the worse in V8 (whether too quick or not depends on who you ask) and past that point he's a clear ENTJ; but I feel like it was more debatable before that. Idk though I might be overthinking this in the hope of making more interesting combinations xD

Qrow • ISTP 4w3 6w7? 1w9? sp/sx

I don't really see anything else than ISTP for Qrow... But he's not a character I would want to find Ti arguments for either.

Raven • ENTJ Cp6w5 8w9 3w4

Most villains get called ENTJ at the first occasions tbh zlqfznhqzkf but I think it fits Raven for the most part actually...

➸ Atlas

Winter • ESTJ 1w9 3w4 6w5

The whole Schnee family has the same enneagram tritype in different order/different wings, it's ridiculous I think she has a higher Te than Weiss, and Fi inf fits her more. She struggles more to reconcile with her emotions and the idea of a personal right/wrong than her little sis.

Penny • ENFP 4w3 6w7 9w1 sx/so

Perfect example of a healthy 4, she's a great friend a cutie pie. ... Sorry we were talking about MBTI x) Well again, textbook ENFP. Not much to debate here.

Whitley • 3w4 1w9 6w5?

Not enough material for me to guess a MBTI type correctly either, sorry... I could see some kind of xNTJ yea but it's really just vibes and not enough concrete.

➸ Antagonists and Extras

Cinder • 8w7 3w4 6w5

Never cared to guess her MBTI type. I hereby type her as insufferable qkfqskfq. More seriously, I don't really know sorry Anon :/

Emerald • 2w3 ?w? ?w?

I never got Fe vibes from her tbh, I just think she's a 2. And Fe as a function is very infused with 2 stereotypes. So yea. Like, she isn't even that worried about the morality of her actions or anything more than the other villains. She just cares more about her personal relationships and being loved, so she automatically looks much nicer, especially with 2 mechanisms of trying to make herself useful and needed. Also because she's surrounded by 8-ish people xD

Mercury • 8w9 7w8 ?w?

ISTP doesn't sound too farfeteched, but I never MBTI-typed him either, sorry.

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Bartholomew Oobleck • xSxJ 5w4

The only vibe he gave me is Si somewhere because of all his talks about learning from the past and everything repeats itself and it's a mine of informations at Mountain Glen... That's really the only time I tried to put down anything for him, and it was Si + 5. He could be some kind of xNTP nerd too for sure, but that's more vibe and I couldn't make an actual argument for it.

As promised... Here is my RWBY Enneagram chat !

Here are close-ups for the text (can be hard to read on tumblr)

If you're not an avid typologist you might ask... What IS Enneagram ? And it is my duty to at least quickly introduce you to the concept & not just dump this chart on you :D

For an extensive reading of each type, you can check out this link

And for a quick overview : Enneagram is a typology system (like MBTI or Socionics). It can be a pretty helpful tool, because its focus lies on WHY you act the way you do : discussing the coping mechanism that built themselves out of your childhood struggles/traumas (big & small).

Enneagram is about your core fears, motivations, and how you relate to 3 main emotions (fear, anger & shame). There are 9 types, divided in 3 groups for each emotion & distinguishing 3 main ways to react to them.

Head types deal with Fear

Heart types deal with Shame

Gut types deal with Anger

And the three main ways Enneagram describes to deal with these emotions are : Embrace, Dissociate and Deny.

If I use the Gut types as an example :

Type 1 DISSOCIATE and detach themselves from their anger. They're aware that they're frustrated & angry, but resist this emotion because they want to rationalize it, and only share anger when they feel it is deserved. Their frustration eventually leaks out, and 1s become overly critical. By keeping their emotions and expressions on such a tight leash, 1s grow frustrated and appear as controlled & rigid individuals.

Type 9 DENY and avoid their anger. They numb it until they can barely recognize that they're angry at all. They dumb down or run away from pain & confrontation, in search for simple and painless solutions. Anger has never done anything for them, so they don't feel as though it is worth losing so much energy over. Since they tend to avoid conflict, 9s appear complacent and agreeable.

Type 8 EMBRACE and control their anger. They accept it as part of who they are, and don't care to tone it down for the sake of others. Infused with their anger, they become tough & assertive, chasing away vulnerability and those who would try to control them. Anger protects them, and they use it as a tool. Because they refuse to show weakness and see no reason to bend for others, 8s appear agressive and confrontational.

The same gymnastic happens for the Head or Heart types, but with their respective emotions. Technically, as the 3 groups each deal with different emotions; anyone trying to use enneagram to analyze their own behaviour should also be able to find 3 types (one in each group) they're able to relate to ! Together they make up your tritype :)

There is of course a lot more to enneagram that I woud love to delve into (such as the triads, which are another way to look at the types repartition and what aspects they have in common) but this is the gist of it ! If you're interested or have any questions, you can check out more links at the end (and the Amino community I'm in) oooor just ask me questions !! I'll always be happy to help or answer

Tests do exist like for any personnality theory BUT I happen to know & think they suck; because no one knows & understands you as well as yourself. You can check out answer in an online test, but you can't tell him WHY you chose that answer, and the why is what matters most in Enneagram. So... If that's your kind of thing, just slowly gets to know the theory and yourself. There is NEVER any rush.

Good evening to you all ! *bows*

Enneagram - Rule of Three Enneagram - Healthy or not ? Integration & Disintegration Enneagram - The Triads

What to do when things go wrong (Tm)

Hello everyone, I'm back on my bullshit

Let's all be grateful that Weiss & Jaune aren't too busy panicking or blaming themselves to make a plan. Although for Jaune, V9 might prove me wrong real quick

Oscar, Clover and Marrow are the sweet trinity of "we don't have to fight"

Emerald, Mercury and Ozpin left all emotions behind years ago :)

1/4 of the cast will apologize for their existence if you so much as spill your orange juice apparently

Some bitches love to laugh & joke (or rag someone) in the face of danger; Yang & Watts are bitches

GELKQGHQLFH THIS IS SO GOOD IT'S UNREAL i'm sobbing wtf TT

Everyone is so goddam talented and Ozma is so good; and Ozpin and the little Oscar at the end aaaaa

"There are approximately 1,010,300 words in the English language, but I could never string enough words together to properly express how much I -" LOVE THIS BLBLBL

Two dozen lovely artists juggled lost files, broken tablets, exam seasons and more to bring you this labor of love - a multi-artist picture music video about Ozma’s lives so far. I hope you enjoy watching as much as we all did making it! 

@lutzsan / @grimmons / @whateverworkswithme / @kobatoo / @ ShadowDapple on Twitter / @starryeydsailor / @wowizard / @lesbianviolet / @blueinkjpeg / @th-xeno / @z-1-wolfe / @mynameisactuallyten / @mcmystery / @ sunbaby.art on Instagram / @dissonantharmony / @principally-ace / @phoenixgreen / @remnant-roses 

(These are the links to the artists’ tumblrs where available - preferred social medias will be linked in a separate reblog because Tumblr sucks.)

IT'S MEME TIME COWBOYS !

Time to start a fight ⚔️

For even more characters than usual, I made one chart for the kiddos and one for the adults. Enjoy ~

It's hard to find characters who avoid fighting because they know they'll lose in a show filled with characters who KNOW how to fight

For approximatively 90% of the meme conception Oz was the only pacifist adult and if that doesn't summarize the stress he's under I don't know what will

Almost everyone is ready to throw hands at any given time in this show. Even the nice and responsible ones

Penny, Sun and Pyrrha are 100/10 friends, will have you back anytime, just wanna be included

If you wonder at any point why Ilia is here, remember she won't hesitate to break your teeth

RWBY in Song ♦ Adults and their mistakes

Human - Rag'n'Bone Man

Maybe I'm foolish, maybe I'm blind Thinking I can see through this and see what's behind Got no way to prove it, so maybe I'm lying

But I'm only human after all I'm only human after all Don't put your blame on me Don't put your blame on me

Take a look in the mirror, and what do you see? Do you see it clearer or are you deceived... in what you believe?

'Cause I'm only human after all You're only human after all Don't put the blame on me Don't put your blame on me

Some people got the real problems Some people out of luck Some people think I can shoulder The weight of heavens above

I'm only human after all I'm only human after all Don't put the blame on me Don't put the blame on me

Don't ask my opinion Don't ask me to lie

Then beg for forgiveness For making you cry For making you cry

I'm only human, I make mistakes I'm only human that's all it takes To put the blame on me Don't put the blame on me

'Cause I'm no prophet or messiah You should go looking somewhere higher

I'm only human, I do what I can I'm just a man, I do what I can Don't put the blame on me Don't put your blame on me

»»————-　♔　————-««

A song for the adults in the cast and the mistakes they made, but mostly how much these mistakes boil down to humanity's limits.

➸ While RWBY as a show is mostly focused on the teenagers, I've found the adults to be really compelling when you allow them the room to simply be human and acknowledge that they inevitably make mistakes as a result. That is not to mean that some of their actions are not reprehensible, but I think they also all deserve some manner of understanding, in the sense that the root of their failures are more often than not familiar and real.

➸ Fear, Hope, Despair... The hesitation to trust brought on by trauma and experience, the fumbling that occurs along the way of an impossible task. The fall that comes with relying too much on others' hope, trying in vain to numb and run from your pain. How the weight of your responsabilities and desire to do the right thing can bring you down if pushed and pulled for too long. The difficulties that come with leaving behind the life you've been raised in (and ultimately failing to). The root of everything being a simple human's grief and his inability to let go... or the fact that the gods might be much more to blame. The hope and desire to make the world a better place for the next generation, only to force a bigger sacrifice on them.

➸ Everyone is human, trying in their own way and making mistakes on the path. Everyone is faillible, and I sometimes wish this was acknowledged more... Because it is so very easy to become the antagonist in someone else's story as everyone struggles to find their place in the world or simply what to do. And I think it's important to remember the good among the bad decisions... To look at the root of the evil more than the humans who fell victim to it.

HAPPY PRIDE MONTH EVERYONE

I took full advantage of the lack of precision each RWBY character has regarding their orientations or gender; and I made use of that fun template I found.

I'm putting the blank at the end : don't hesitate to reblog with your own headcannons. With or without the templates tbh, you can just tell me "I headcannon X as Y", that's still interesting !

This is a big mix of what I headcannon, what I can imagine best, and also just trying to complete the template in general x)

(Trans here encompass ftm, mtf or NB ! So go wild with your headcannons !)

As a bonus that I wasn't able to put here : my main headcannon for Ozpin is Agender Ozpin 🖤🤍💚 I like asexual Ozpin too but I'm really not picky and I like most content with him. Agender Ozpin is always super nice to see on the other hand ;;

Blake & May are both canon LGBTQ+, good for her ❤

Other than that I feel strongly about asexual Ren, bisexual Qrow & Pyrrha, gay Clover and bi/pan Sun ! I put the Aro/Demiromantic spots late into the making, but I'm pretty satisfied with the three I put there honestly. Weiss & Mercury here stand as Demiromantic, and Harriet as aromantic !

I have so many ideas of songs to apply to RWBY characters in one way or another, like I can picture it perfectly in an AMV, I'm imagining the lyrics with the scenes in the background...

Except I've never ever made an AMV, idk how to or what programm to use 😭 I'm coping with music posts to at least put the ideas OUT THERE instead of just letting them rot in my brain, but the yearning to just... snap my fingers & make them into AMVs is so strong

I'm putting my long list of song ideas under the cut if anyone's interested If per chance someone who sees this makes AMV, all these ideas are like... free to take just give me the link to the results if you use them 🙏 (and like, if you credit me for the idea in a corner that'd be NEAT but really not mandatory)

Yang - Piece by Piece (Kelly Clarkson) ➸ About Raven's abandonment, how Tai/Qrow made up for it, and her inconditional love for Ruby

Blake & Yang - Forgive me friend (Smith & Thell) ➸ About their fallout in V4-V5 due to their respective issues

Ruby & Yang - Trenches (Beth Crowley) ➸ About their respective Branwen relationships, Qrow & Raven, and the struggles they put them through at times (the difference between the two being that Qrow is always willing to change and do better) .

Ozpin & Ruby - Burned out (Dodie) ➸ On the concept of leadership, and the similarities between the two

Oz-carnations - I was Wrong (the Oh Hellos) ➸ About their story and mistakes, but mostly how guilty and sorry they feel about it

Blake & Ozpin - Savior (Beth Crowley) OR Don't Make Me (MALINDA) ➸ About their respective abusive relationships with Adam & Salem

Ozpin - Liar (Arcadian Wild) ➸ On Ozpin's lies, his guilt fighting his desire to appear strong and reliable. Ends with showing how RWBYJNRQ succumb to the same need to save face and hide their struggles. .

Ren - Keep you safe (Crane Wives) ➸ About Ren's struggles with risk and the fear of failure

Renora - Line without a Hook ➸ About their relationships, ups-and-down. Alternating PoV. .

Qrow - Ship in a Bottle (Steffan Argus) ➸ About Qrow's downward spiral, and how Ozpin/Clover factor into that

Adults in the RWBYverse - Human (Rag'n'Bone Man) ➸ To highlight the humanity of the adult cast. About their mistakes, and how they boil down to humanity's fallibility. My top adult pick for this one are Ozpin, Qrow, Ironwood & Raven. Then Winter probably ? And maybe others can be found. .

Sun about Blake - She wants me (to be loved) (The Happy Fits) ➸ One-sided love that realizes they won't be loved back, while acknowledging that Blake does love Sun (platonically) and wants the best for him. The most anti-incel song, 10/10

Sun & Weiss - Soap (The Oh Hellos) ➸ Sun singing to Blake and Weiss to Yang, platonic love, V4-V5 focus .

Penny & Pyrrha - If I die young (The Band Perry) ➸ About their lives, cut short. Highlight on their sacrifice and the good times

Penny - Bright Idea (Mother Mother) ➸ About the love Penny found in her life, her relationships, her growth and choices, and simply how great of a person she was. Good vibes .

Ironwood - Hunger (Monsters & Men) ➸ On his struggles & shot mental health, and his jarring behaviour in V8.

Emerald - Be my Escape (Relient K) ➸ About Emerald's doubts & subconsequent redemption, and Oscar's role in it.

Emerald - 10 feet tall (Cavetown) ➸ On the need to appear big & tough when her main goal is to find a home & family .

Salem - The Angry River (The Hat)

Mercury - The Moon will Sing (Crane Wives) ➸ A different look at Mercury's harsh persona, focused on his status as an abuse victim who feels trapped by the darkness they were raised in

Adam - This is Love (Air Traffic Controller) ➸ About his twisted personnality & abusive behaviour toward Blake

Neo - Snowcone (Rei Ami) ➸ About the duality of Neo, who is such a competent bad bitch but also so vulnerable without Roman, and still lost as to what to do with herself since his death

A quick meme for the road before going to sleep like a good little french medicine student (it's a lie)

Yes I put this together in 15 min just for you all, be nice to me pls I'm fluffy and scared of confrontation

watch me favour the side characters instead of the main except Blake but she's way too bi to not be put here okay

it's my meme and I get to throw shades at those who refuse Qrow's bi-disaster vibes

in honor of that fanart I saw making fun of Ozma's fashion choices and how there's no way this guy was just straight

sun is just a himbo and I love him

cinder can be very competent or straight-up feral stupid

ozpin is trying very hard but we all know our wizard is a dumbass deep down

marrow "please assume I know what I'm doing" amin

mercury is giving you a side glance bc he can't believe you thought he had any kind of standards

blake "she has 2 hands" belladonna (you are not immune to my subtle sunny bees propaganda)

nora. just. nora

Sorry to get uneasy & extra-specific on main but I wish there was a way to block the very specific narrative that Ozma 2.0 trying to leave with his children was in any shape or form a "betrayal" or "wrong" or "sickening" or one of his faults; because I don't think Salem should be in a 3-meter radius of ANY children including hers and blaming the abuse victim for trying to take his children with him just make me very uncomfortable and I want to close the rwby feed any time I see something close to that thinking.

Look I know that up until that point she was apparently a good mom. But seeing as she basically wanted to replace humanity with her children. And the only magic-people are her, her husband & her children. And that when she saw Ozma trying to leave she immediatly attacked with no care for the girls' safety I wouldn't think she's safe anymore & I would hightail the hell out of here too. The best understanding of mom-Salem in my opinion is that she's a great mom up until things don't go her way, and then all bets are off. And I don't care whether she felt betrayed & anguished by Ozma trying to take her children when she killed them 5 min later.

Okay I might have to pause this "one chart a day" thing I have going on, I'm starting an internship at the hospital & I'm not sure I'll have the time to keep going. So... Enjoy this one !

This is a hand-made template so I'm putting it at the end in case someone else wants to give it a go :D

THE WHY-s

Oscar sweetie I love you very much and you're doing great but when you're constantly dealing with your trauma offscreen I'm forced to put you in the "no emotional vulnerability" category

When you're constantly yelling at your ex & her blonde teammate about your problems and how hurt you are, I'm putting you in oversharing (yes this is about Adam. Bitch)

Mercury & Emerald : emotional vulnerability ? never heard of her. Just on slightly opposite ends of the axis

RWBY just love piling up the angst & breakdowns on their emotionally-stunted adult men am I right. Sorry about that Oz, James, Qrow.

A very confused Ozma during his first reincarnation

Tired old wizard and his Maidens

Ozpin feeling conflicted about the decision to make Pyrrha an "unnatural" Maiden

Some more Oz-carnations gifs I put together

And another meme for the road !

I made myself sad with this meme bc I realized that the last box is basically just characters who learnt that disagreeing lead nowhere good and they can't win :) (headcannonish in Tai's case but I just can't see Raven concede a point to anyone in a debate) *holds gently the three* You deserve better.

For clarification :

- Cinder only avoids people who disagree with her in the sense that she kills them. - Maria ain't got time to argue with people and she doesn't care.

- JRP + O are civilized and then there's Nora - RWBY all have different ways of dealing with disagreements so I guess they're balanced in that sense at least

I established the difference between "Their opinion is as valid as mine" & "I will talk to them" in that characters in the latter are firmly convinced to be right and aim to change others' mind. Whereas characters of the former category have their opinions but don't necessarily think they're more right.