spirituality as a system is so funny because now i have to worry about introjecting a random deity. like what do you mean i can just be minding my business and now loki is in mybrain like PLEASEEE
very cheesed to see someone else acknowledging the pervasive hypocrisy in anti-endo spaces. another big one is how they claim their stance is to "protect the community from fakers" or some other insistence that endos/related are bad actors, and proceed to.. you know. exclude other disordered systems from osddid spaces on the basis of supporting endos. a la the very blatant implication of "you're fake if you believe in them because a Real System wouldnt believe in them". like dude. seriously? where am i
yeah, also like... claiming endos are "fakers" is always so weird to me because... in order to fake DID or OSDD-1, wouldnt you kind of need to claim that you HAVE the disorder??? endos dont claim DID or OSDD-1 to begin with LMFAOO so how would they be faking it
gonna get a bit syscourse-y here, but... recently noticed kind of a weird hypocrisy in anti-endo arguments and wanted to point it out to see if others agree
for extra context, i have DID and im pro-endo id say?? my mindset is basically just "i dont get it personally, but live ur life dude(s), its not my business and im not gonna tell u what u are / arent" because like. i find it super hard to believe that DID and OSDD-1 are the ONLY possible causes for systems LOL... also i will be using the terms endo / endogenic as umbrella terms for all plurality outside of DID / OSDD-1 throughout this post
ANYWAYS THOUGHH... most harshly anti-endo spaces (or at least those that are pro-recovery) really emphasise that DID and OSDD-1 are more than just "alter disorders", which i absolutely agree with! DID and OSDD-1 are both complex dissociative disorders that include identity alteration (alters) as a SYMPTOM, but the disorders both fundamentally involve dissociation and impairment in daily life to some extent
BUT... then they are also so quick to say that endos MUST have DID / OSDD-1 if they have alters... but what about all the other symptoms? most endos i have met do not experience dissociation or other DID / OSDD-1 symptoms. claiming someone MUST have DID / OSDD-1 because they have alters would kind of be reducing the disorders down to just "alter disorders", right?
plus, it seems to be entirely ignoring the fact that you can have a symptom of a disorder without having the disorder / being disordered... lets use ADHD as an example here since its the first thing to come to mind LOL, someone can have a short attention span or be distracted easily without inherently having ADHD. it would depend on the presence of other symptoms as well as degree of life impairment. this logic also applies to any other disorder ever... so why dont we apply the same logic to DID / OSDD-1?
most endos i see dont claim DID / OSDD-1, and the ones that do are generally mixed origins. if we apply the logic that symptom ≠ disorder and that DID / OSDD-1 are more than just "alter disorders", why would someone not be able to have alters without a dissociative disorder?
IDK i hope this makes sense. feel free to reblog with any comments or anything i want to see others opinionz