โ Aatamixx, the Echoflower System's Introduction ๐ซ๐ชป
Hello, welcome to my blog, I'm Aatami (AKA Mishka or Snep)! Well, that's just collectively speaking. If you're talking about the whole system, you can call me (us) the Echoflower System. My collective pronouns are he/him, but kit/kitself, nya/nyaself, and star/starself are all good too. I'm pretty new to Tumblr (well I had a blog in like 2020, but I've forgotten basically everything about itโฆ also I use parentheses way too much, gosh), but I plan to use this blog as a sort of archive for all the xenogenders I've coined, as well as getting into the MOGAI and plural communities on here. I hope I can find my people on this website. /lh
(This post will be periodically edited as things about myself change, of course.)
โ So Now That I Know This Aatami, Where Can I Find Him? โ
In case you had it in you for even more rambling, you can check out my about me literature on Toyhouse (I use it like a Carrd). More things are already linked there, so I don't need to re-add them all here. I also use the account that it's posted under for posting the occasional bulletin (and storing my original characters, but those are all private and will remain as such for the foreseeable future).
โ Small Facts About the System โ
(Switching to using plural language for this was a little jarring lawl, I'm very much used to referring to myself singularly.)
โ We have OSDD-1B (recognized by our psychologist, but unable to be officially diagnosed due to not being disordered โ we've achieved functional multiplicity, surprisingly enough) and are of mixed traumagenic origins
โ We are an aceplex
โ We're a theriosystem
โ We are very male- / masculine-heavy, due to our gender dysphoria affecting everyone
โ Because we're so male-heavy, we default to using he/him instead of they/them when referring to an unspecified alter or one whose gender identity is unknown
โ We're also somewhat angel-heavy
โ Due to our maladaptive daydreaming, our system has countless paracosms (the most active ones of which being the worlds our original stories are set in, as well as our fandoms, especially ones we're hyperfixating on)
โ Our headspace is exclusively set in our daydreams, and is not something that's just there in the background โ it has to be consciously visualized and visited (or well, accidentally while zoning out)
โ We are a dreamway system of sorts, but I should mention that we don't experience walk-ins and pretty much none of our alters are paragenic
โ Our alters almost never interact in the headspace, but they can use things like the Simply Plural chat and get a conversation going if need be
โ Alter Signoff Chart โ
(I originally planned to list their roles here too, but I ended up deciding against it, since I'm unsure of what some of their purposes are and uncomfortable with sharing a few others.)
โ The Hosts โ
โก๏ธ๐ = Fritz โ He/Kit/Spark
๐๐บ = Sindri โ He/Kit/Meow/Nya/Star/.Exe
๐๐ง = Samuel โ He/Him
โ๏ธ๐ = Mikko โ He/They/Kit/Nya/Snow/Star
โ Alfred's Subsystem โ
๐พ๐ฉธ = Alfred โ He/Him
๐พ๐ฌ = Ekkehard (Eike) โ He/Him
๐พ๐ค = Kelso โ He/Him
๐พโจ = Aleksi โ He/They/Pup
๐พ๐ = Salem โ She/He/They/Pup
โ Everyone Else โ
โ๏ธ๐ฅ = Akatsuki โ He/Kit
โโ๏ธ= Alois โ He/Him
๐ป๐ = Asriel โ He/They
๐น๐ = August โ He/They
๐ฆโโฌ๐ = Corbin โ He/Him
๐ช๐ฌ = Dylan โ He/Him
๐โโฌ๐ = Ender โ Xae/They/He/Kit
๐โญ๏ธ = Felix โ He/They
๐๐ฆ = Finnley โ He/They
๐ชฝ๐น = Gabriel โ They/He
๐ช๐ช = Ivan โ He/Him
๐๐ = Jeremy โ He/Him
๐ช๐ = Katsumi / Sabrina โ She/They/He/Kit/Meow/Mew/Nya
๐บ๐ฉธ = Lavrentiy โ He/Him
๐ฟโ๏ธ = Malachi โ He/Him
๐๐ฆฎ = Nanner (trying to think of a new name for himself) โ He/She/They/Pup
๐๐ฅ๏ธ = Prototype (trying to think of a new name for himself) โ He/Him
๐ฅ๐ก๏ธ = Reinhard โ He/Him
๐ช๐ = Saturn โ He/They/Pup/Star
๐ธ๐งก = Shalva โ He/Him
๐๐ = Sylvan โ He/They/Bun
๐ชณ๐ฉธ = Vermin โ They/He
๐๏ธ๐ฉธ = (Currently undecided on a name for himself, very recently discovered.) โ He/Him
This guy has left the same message in like 5 different places...
So we have a new member, an introject, and he is struggling to adapt to things a bit and feeling kind of emotional. But I have my own stuff going on too and don't have the energy really to deal with this rn. I'm just...augh...tired. I wish I could help him more but I really don't even know what to do since this has never happened for us before
Today Elin came back after several days of being distant and purposefully stayed co-con rather than co-front because he thinks it will help build my communication and awareness. He was making me do grounding stuff so we didn't get blurry...I think he's just a sadist tho and likes watching me struggle
It's so wild to me still how different some of the others are. And it's no wonder I would try to supress the differences. It can be kinda scary and uncomfortable to suddenly feel like you hate something you love or feel suddenly angry for no reason. And that's just being influenced by *one* of them. It's so strange sometimes of course my instinct is to think it's not real.
This is random but I made and have been regularly filling out this personal form to judge when I am dissociated and how I am feeling and this silly form is doing more for my denial than anything I've ever done. I can go back and see the other answers and stuff that don't align with me and know that I wasn't just imagining it all. I really was not myself for those times no matter what I want to pretend
It's always strange to me when fictives appear that they're never the character from the show or whatever that I'm actually obsessed with. It'll be someone kinda random that I would never expect
Elin just told me he's co-con most of the time I just never notice...
Noticing and acknowledging and even accepting what it feels like to co-front has been a very big hurdle for us. Maybe because I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone else describe the sensation in quite the same way as we experience it. It's a little hard to explain properly but I found some images that kind of translate the feeling.
tw: images may mess with eyes or impose feelings of unreality
Most of the time we feel like 'ourselves' (i.e. the one correlated with our irl name/Des) but who is easily influenced by the others.
Only, when one of the others front, Des doesn't necessarily leave front or even develop amnesia and can usually still speak. It feels like the above images, with two beings occupying the same space. Afterwards Des will remember the basics of what transpired but as if it happened to another person or was a dream--with details missed and emotions muted or lost from the time.
tw: drugs, weed
So does anyone else notice that when they smoke/are high that some others (I still haven't found a word I like) are more likely and/or easier to front? Like in the past some of them didn't like the feeling and would avoid front. I've noticed that there are particular others that consistently are okay with fronting while high. It's kind of strange and definitely I think contributes to my denial and confusion. Unfortunately now days I am more likely to be high to some degree than sober. Dissociation also feels different when high which is another factor. It's just so hard to quit. (This post isn't about that, though ...)
Anyways...am I alone here?
As someone who really struggles with unclear rules/concepts, being a system is a very difficult idea to grasp or accept personally. Every few years I go through a cycle of denial and then rediscovery and exploration that eventually I get frustrated with and abandon. Perhaps it's a lack of self assurance in myself. Whatever it is, I hope this time is different somehow.
It's hard to do the difficult thing when it's much easier to just continue trudging along in a fog.
Do you have alters that speak different languages? If so, which languages? :0
We personally donโt have any alters that speak different languages. While collectively we know a bit of Spanish, thereโs no one who speaks a different language exclusively, at least not that we know of! Who knows, haha. Thank you for the ask!
๐ฆด - Is anyone in your system dating? If so, who is the strangest pair?
Yep! Only two as far as weโre aware, but theyโre not exactly strange, especially since they were kind of in a situation ship in source.
๐ - Is there a particular source you have a lot of fictives from?
Oh, definitely. I stare at Slay the Princess in horror.
๐ชฆ - Who has the strangest habits?
Well, we have one person, but I donโt think theyโd like to share it so Iโll just go for the next weirdest one. Collecting insect corpses and random rocks.
โฐ๏ธ - Do you have any nonverbal headmates?
Yep! Involuntary and voluntarily!
๐ท - Who is the worst at masking?
The British one. Or the littles, but they mostly stay inside anyway so itโs not too big of a deal.
๐ธ - How did your headmates get their names?
Depends on the alter, some find a name that feels right, some do extensive research to find something that matches them perfectly, some use a random name generator, some just come prepackaged.
โ ๏ธ - Do you have any headmates with colored hair,piercings, or tattoos?
Hm, off the top of my head, maybe two or three- but thereโs probably more that I canโt think of.
๐ช - How consistent are you with logging switches?
Ooh, weโre really bad at this. We try our best, but when you canโt remember things and not all of your members are even aware you have simply plural, it gets a little tough.
๐งฟ - Is there anyone who spends most of their time in front complaining?
Uhh, yep. We have a few emotion holders who do that- also some persecutors, littles, it varies. Nobody in specific.
๐ - Is there anything specific you do to help introjects feel more comfortable?
Allowing them to state clear boundaries, get things that are comforting to them that are from source, or allowing them to branch out if they prefer not to identify as their source! Whatever they need, for the most part.
๐ป - How did you discover your plurality/systemhood?
We frankly do not remember very well, but one day they just. Appeared. We passed them off as imaginary friends. We were not imaginary friends.
๐ฉธ - Is there anyone who absolutely hates their source?
No one who absolutely despises it, but there are definitely a few who donโt like to be associated with their source.
๐ฆ - Are there any songs that you associate with systemhood/plurality or your system as a whole?
Not really!
๐โโฌ- Is there anyone who identifies as otherkin/therian?
Yep! We have a few guys in there, love those guys. They embrace themselves and donโt give a shit about what others think! Theyโre really great and sweet.
๐ฎ - How does your system determine who handles certain tasks/responsibilities?
it sort of plays out naturally- or higher ups decide, well, something like that. Iโm not certain if thereโs like anything specifically but generally they show up just knowing? Or they just end up settling into the role.
๐งโโ๏ธ - Who is the most outwardly intimating? Are they viewed the same way within the system?
Outwardly intimidatingโฆ probably nicole because of just how confident and blunt they are? theyโre less intimidating insys but, yeah, still not the easiest to talk to.
๐ฏ- Do your system's littles use "Baby Talk"?
It depends on the little. For the most part, no. Especially during text- any quirks are mainly voice-related when internally speaking, and those are unintentional and not too obvious.
โ๏ธ - Funniest quote out of context
โbros magical girl energy confuses meโ - some guy in our head
โฌ - Is there anyone who has a unique/ non-traditional role?
Plenty, plenty. But you know, alters are unique to your experiences. But I suppose compared to the typical archetypes and such, definitely, yes.
๐ชณ - How do you visualize your headmates? (Drawing them,picrew,etc)
Typically through picrews, for Introjects fanart. Some guys want to draw, but itโs not typical.
๐ฆด - Is anyone in your system dating? If so, who is the strangest pair?
๐ - Is there a particular source you have a lot of fictives from?
๐ชฆ - Who has the strangest habits?
โฐ๏ธ - Do you have any nonverbal headmates?
๐ท - Who is the worst at masking?
๐ธ - How did your headmates get their names?
โ ๏ธ - Do you have any headmates with colored hair,piercings, or tattoos?
๐ช - How consistent are you with logging switches?
๐งฟ - Is there anyone who spends most of their time in front complaining?
๐ - Is there anything specific you do to help introjects feel more comfortable?
๐ป - How did you discover your plurality/systemhood?
๐ฉธ - Is there anyone who absolutely hates their source?
๐ฆ - Are there any songs that you associate with systemhood/plurality or your system as a whole?
๐โโฌ- Is there anyone who identifies as otherkin/therian?
๐ฎ - How does your system determine who handles certain tasks/responsibilities?
๐งโโ๏ธ - Who is the most outwardly intimating? Are they viewed the same way within the system?
๐ฏ- Do your system's littles use "Baby Talk"?
โ๏ธ - Funniest quote out of context
โฌ - Is there anyone who has a unique/ non-traditional role?
๐ชณ - How do you visualize your headmates? (Drawing them,picrew,etc)
insert funny thing here about plurality because i remember i had this really funny idea for a post in my head but now its forever lost to the void that is my subconscious
pov : you try and convince your headmates to rest at night because its a healthy thing to do. they proceed to look for one specific journal to read they just randomly remembered for more than an hour that had four pages in it done because โi wonโt remember it tomorrowโ. the next day, you feel like shit
no because where did all these fictives come from did my brain give up on making guys
you know that feeling when you leave your Spotify playlist alone for a few weeks and suddenly you hate every song on there
ill answer this one for our collective ...... our stress, exhaustion, and pain has decreased drastically due to our system. we're all here for each other, both on our good, and our bad days. we're here to listen to each other when no one outside will, and we are here to spread positivity and love throughout our system and take the brunt of the blow for each other so we can keep on going. we do playfully banter a TON, but in all seriousness, we genuinely all keep each other alive.
Tell us something positive about your system/alters/headmates/plurality:
We'll go first. If it wasn't for our system and the ability to relieve each other from fronting there's no fucking way we'd be half as functional as we currently are with the excruciating level of pain we're in. So god damn thankful I don't have to do this bullshit alone.
shoutout to the headmate who does things that their headmates canโt do anymore in their place because itโs too difficult or triggering for them. love you all out there. you do a lot of work for your system. <3
being susceptible to splitting and anxiety is the worst fucking combo ever ... like what the fuck are these guys here for when that shit didn't even happen yet
no because tell me why these stupid ass head motherfuckers are always the most active at the least important times. like they wont show up during actually important shit but when somebody thinks about what the weakest bone in the body is, FIFTEEN PEOPLE SUDDENLY APPEAR????
i swear getting a headmate who likes bugs is a universal experience and i donโt know why -blurry
my fandom is actually composed of quite a few plural collectives- and many of the fandoms we're in (besides a select few) have creators who are outwardly plural friendly and have supports for plural collectives (eg. pluralkit). so, id say in my experience personally in the few inbetweens ive interacted with my own fandom, its mostly been fine, besides the few outliers here and there, along with some strange ships id rather not think about again... - sun โ
hello. systems. plurals. especially introtives/introjects/what have you. etc. i have a question! a few actually. what would you say your general experience(s) with fandom has been like? has it been well? did you feel respected in fandom spaces? id assume itd vary between them so if youve seen any patterns id like to know them as well. weird as hell post ik ik but work with me here
auhhh your blog is so pretty. basic template, either dealers choice headmade or a dsmp fictive of your choosing if that's okay!!
cutter+alex, he/him
YEAHH thank you!! i will do my best to do the dsmp fictive, but ive never actually watched it, so it may be a little off LOL i hope its okay though!! i read a wiki page for it LMAOO feel free to take what fits and leave what doesnt :) also SORRYY if any of this doesnt fully fit! i had a hard time thinking of some stuff...
name: ranboo, boo, ran, ender, allium / allie, quill, rainbow, raine, riley, vinyl, clue, mystery, seeker, sage, asher, lucas, eugene, cedar, charlie, olive / oliver / oli, crypt, grim
pronouns: end/ender, end/ends, love/loves, red/reds, green/greens, heart/hearts, kind/kinds, trance/trances, walk/walks, peace/peaceful or peace/peaces, dual/duality, purple/purples, pur/purple, boo/boos, book/books, page/pages, particle/particles, eye/eyes, glow/glows, tape/tapes
age: ageless, appears as young adult
role: protector, emotional regulator, insomnia holder, dissociation holder, anxiety holder, conflict resolver, caretaker
genders: genderfluid, nonbinary, enderwalkic, cryptidcatgender, liminalic, vimemorin, reidrovex, lostpoeic, panicgender, endposgender, lossgender, endrian
orientation: asexual panromantic
species: half enderman, enderwalker, cryptid
personality overview: loving / caring towards friends, can be assertive when needed and usually in the defense of close people, likes to talk things out whenever possible and resolve conflict, protective of anyone considered close, forgiving, honest, wants to help others, forgetful at times, i could also see this alter taking up poetry / writing as a hobby :)
notable traits: insomniac, hard time making eye contact, dislikes being in water, verbal stims when stressed, likes to fidget with random objects and potentially collect things, loves animals... maybe has innerworld pet?
general aesthetic: softer, black and white, glitchcore maybe? or darker cottagecore / dark nature
add ons: ranboo introject
I HOPE ITS OKAY! sorry it took a bit, i was doing like actual research LMAOO
not endo myself but these questions are cool and i want to talk about my system so weeeee here we go
๐ฆด - thatss a good question honestly... as far back as i remember? i know i discovered DID by watching some youtube videos at like 11 and relating to them, but didnt think much more of it until my diagnosis at 15
๐ชฝ - around the time of my diagnosis, i realized i couldnt ignore it anymore, so instead decided to learn to function together
๐ช - uhhh i believe luci? or maybe lexa... luci is one of our gatekeepers, and lexa is the primary protector. they were the most active in communication when we first discovered the DID
๐ญ - roughlyy around the time of first discovery?? we had a list of names in notes app, we later swapped to simplyplural around the time of diagnosis (it had just been released, i think?)
๐ธ๏ธ - nonee, we dont intentionally create alters, but we do have TBMC trauma if that counts ?? like yes they were created kind of on purpose but not by us lol
๐ซ - we do! i honestly dont know if any of it is intentionally built or not but uhh it is pretty large and only some of us can access it
๐ - wedont create alters, but our new splits like looking at ID packs and stuff! we dont use bah blogs though hinestly im not sure what those are
๐ฆ - gonna use "created" to mean split here, we recently did split but the new split doesnt have a solid identity yet
๐ - ithinkk แฉแฏ was the first host?? at least to my knowledge
๐ฟ - usually ID packs or just searching around, sometimes we ask friends for suggestions
๐ - none of us really? unless you count kylo, he types like a myspace teenager lol so "to" = 2 and "for" = 4 sometimes, and many "xD" "lolz" and similar. he only types like that sometimes though
๐ชถ - yes! some of us have accents we picked up from media or people we grew up around
๐ชฆ - a former therapist, i think? we would occasionally join system discord servers before that point, though
๐ธ๏ธ - i usuallyyy dont, i generally only tell people i consider very close! for general strangers or not close friends, ijust say i have a disorder that impacts my memory, since thats the most noticeable symptom i have... for close people though i generally just tell them that i have a DID diagnosis, most people have been very understanding
๐ท๏ธ - not reallyy?? unless you count alters cutting off people lol, but generally anyone we have told has been understanding :)
๐ช - yes! my 3 closest friends all know (one is also a system), as well as my boyfriend (he is plural as well, i remember when i first told him his reaction was "oh my god... me too" it was really funny since i had been genuinely nervous to tell him LOL)
targeted to endos , but anyone can use ! post made by an endo :)
โ start .
๐ฆด : when did you first start feeling plural ?
๐ชฝ : when did you finally accept your plurality ?
๐ช : who was the first alter your system found that wasn't the host ?
๐ญ : when did you start keeping track of your alters ?
โ creation .
๐ธ๏ธ : how many of your headmates are created ?
๐ซ : do you have a headspace ? if so , how much was built ?
๐ : do you use bah blogs to help create alters ?
๐ฆ : who's your most recently created alter ?
โ general .
๐ : who was your first host ?
๐ฟ : how do you find the names of your alters ?
๐ : how many of you have typing quirks ?
๐ชถ : do any of you have an accent ?
โ friends .
๐ชฆ : who was the first person to know about your plurality ?
๐ธ : how do you tell new people about your plurality ?
๐ท : have you lost friends over your plurality ?
๐ช : are you out to people irl with your plurality ?
in addition to the last post (different anon here) claiming they're "invading THEIR spaces" is so funny to me.... no bb you saw a similarity within stereotypical tiktok DID and the concept of tulpamancy and the only thing related in these two posts is that they share the plural tag...
YEAH LOL "non-traumagenics are claiming to have DID!!! DID is caused by trauma!!!" no actually they just... claim to be multiple! they dont claim DID in like 99% of cases, the only times ive seen it is for mixed origin sys
anti-endos worshipping the DSM and citing it as proof that plurality has to be caused by trauma / disordered: Rahhhh you're a liar because this book only used in america has it!!!!!
the helpful ICD, which apparently recognised non-disordered plurality in one of the iterations (not sure which one) and used across the entire world:
SORRY i am just now seeing this but YEAH i actually think i know what ur talking about. im pretty sure there is an ICD document / article about dissociation that mentions non-traumagenic plurality somewheree in it? but dont quote me on this because i saw it like... last year LOL
also the DSM never even says that plurality has to be disordered either? it just says that DID/OSDD-1 are not caused by spiritual or cultural practices, which honestly if anything validates non-disordered plurality? because like that means it acknowledges that identity alterations CAN be caused by things other than DID/OSDD-1
"i love attention so much i might as well be an NPD symptom holder!! ..........wait a minute"
me when co-con alter has the NPD awakening
not endo but sharing this + also adding on the note that a lot of their posts could be triggering to people with psychosis or paranoia, i checked their blog and YEAH! as a paranoid schizospec person... be cautious guys yeah
i& advise endos to block @ifuckinghateendos , some of their content is upsetting to see . this is not an invitation to harass them , i& assume they are a satirical blog .
stay safe , please !
made a meme for anyone else out there who gets stuck in the "it wasnt that bad!" or "maybe im not traumatized!" loops because trauma denial sucks ass!!! you all are valid!!!