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My father just showed me this and I feel like if Remus was a celebrity, this is exactly what he would do
Little Thomas, in his kitchen, singing the '(blank blank) bo b(blank) banana fana fo f(blank) me my mo m(blank), (blank)' song on repeat with different words
In his head-
Thomas/Remus: Cat cat bo bat banana fana fo fat me my mo mat, caaaat
Thomas/Remus: Dog dog bo bog banana fana fo fog me my mo mog, doooog
(several verses later, running out of words)
Thomas/Remus: Luck luck bo buck banana fana fo fu—
Patton: *slaps hand over Remus's mouth*
Thomas: *slaps hand over his own mouth, eyes wide* Sorry!
Thomas's Parents: *eyes wide, not mad though*
Thomas/Remus: I'm gonna stop singing now...
Logan: Just wrote offly instead of awfully. Can you tell I'm exhausted?
Janus: Yes, because this is a verbal conversation so I don't have any idea what you're talking about.
Logan: ...
Logan: I'm going to bed.
Janus: Good choice.
If anyone's wondering what they're eating—
Roman: Toaster waffles
Janus: He just unhinged his jaw (traumatizing Roman and Patton) and had a few whole raw eggs before leaving to not eat for a few weeks
Remus: Raw oats (just throwing back handfuls and sometimes not even chewing them, Patton is very concerned)
Patton: Cereal
Logan: Oatmeal (he offered to make Remus some out of politeness but he wasn't interested)
Virgil: Dry toast
(I feel it's important to emphasize that everyone is sitting at the table, even Remus, except Virgil, who is sitting on top of the fridge, munching on plain toast)
(Virgil's shooting Janus infuriatingly smug looks because whenever he tries to get on the fridge in the dark side, Janus swats him down with a broom, but he can't do that now haha take that Receipt)
Sides: *eating breakfast together*
School bus: *drives past*
Remus: *sees that it's empty*
Remus: This bus empty,
Remus, miming jerking a steering wheel to the side: SKEET
Remus: *continues eating breakfast*
Patton, the only one not used to this: ???
Sides: *eating breakfast together*
School bus: *drives past*
Remus: *sees that it's empty*
Remus: This bus empty,
Remus, miming jerking a steering wheel to the side: SKEET
Remus: *continues eating breakfast*
Patton, the only one not used to this: ???
Patton, poking his head into the dark side lounge: Hey, it's time for d—
Remus: *knees pulled into his chest, having a crisis, mumbling about reindeer*
Logan: *beating Janus over the head and shoulders with a pillow, yelling at him*
Janus: *trying to duck Logan and laughing, saying something about not regretting anything*
Virgil: *sitting in an armchair, on his phone*
Virgil, looking up: Hey, Padre. Dinner?
Patton: *nods*
Patton: Is this... Are they okay?
Virgil: Oh, this is just a Wednesday. 's why I'm always with you and Roman.
Patton: Please... Feel free to come to our side anytime.
Remus, proud of knowing something: Logan. I have a fact.
Logan, not looking up from his book: Proceed.
Remus: Male reindeers lose their antlers in the winter, while female reindeers don't. All of Santa's reindeers have antlers, meaning they're all female, but the media says they're men because they don't want a team of strong females depicted.
Logan: Or they aren't cis. Ever think about that?
Remus: Wait wha—
Logan: Maybe they're transgender. Don't be a bigot, Remus.
Remus: I'M NOT—
Remus: Wait—
Remus: Am I being a bigot???
Logan: I don't know, are you? You're assuming their gender aligns with their sex.
Remus: *now having a crisis*
Janus, walking past, unable to help it: So you could say they're... Transgendeer.
Logan, hopping up, beating Janus with a pillow: I'm trying to escape Patton's constant puns, goddamnit!
Remus, proud of knowing something: Logan. I have a fact.
Logan, not looking up from his book: Proceed.
Remus: Male reindeers lose their antlers in the winter, while female reindeers don't. All of Santa's reindeers have antlers, meaning they're all female, but the media says they're men because they don't want a team of strong females depicted.
Logan: Or they aren't cis. Ever think about that?
Remus: Wait wha—
Logan: Maybe they're transgender. Don't be a bigot, Remus.
Remus: I'M NOT—
Remus: Wait—
Remus: Am I being a bigot???
Logan: I don't know, are you? You're assuming their gender aligns with their sex.
Remus: *now having a crisis*
Janus, walking past, unable to help it: So you could say they're... Transgendeer.
Logan, hopping up, beating Janus with a pillow: I'm trying to escape Patton's constant puns, goddamnit!
Can you imagine Remus trying for hours to create a perfectly normal animal for Patton for his birthday but he's running out of time so like
Remus: *pops up, holding creature*
Roman: *immediately draws sword* Are you trying to KI—
Remus: No! No, no, it's not a cat.
Creature: *looks exactly like a cat*
Remus: Well, not really. See, I made it look like a cat, cuz Patton loves cats, but he's allergic. So it's not really a cat.
Roman: *half-lowers sword* How do we know you're telling the truth?
Remus: Um... If I was trying to be evil, I'd do it much more bluntly?
Roman: *sheaths sword* That's true.
Patton, looking at the creature: Aw, kiddo, it's so cute! Does it have a name?
Remus: Um, no, I thought I'd let you name it. If— if you want it.
Patton: Of course I do! Aw, that's so sweet of you.
Remus: *hands creature to Patton* Just be kinda careful, I'm still new to making normal creatures, so it might be a bit—
Creature: *starts to yawn, as it's mouth gets widest it breaths a spiral of fire, closes its mouth and does a little mlem at the end*
Remus: ...odd.
Everyone: *carefully watching Patton's reaction*
Patton: Kiddo...
Patton: ...I LOVE IT! Oh my goodness!
Patton, scratching the creature's stomach, in a baby-voice: Who's the cutest little not-kitty? You are! Who's my cute little fire-breathing-cat-lookalike? You are!
Remus, softly: *eyes tearing up* He likes it.
Roman: *solemnly sets hand on his shoulder* You did good. You're making us proud as a club member.
Remus: *sniffle* I like this club.
Y'know how if there's a hot character in a movie/series/video game people will crush on them and idolize them?
"Then they're missing out. There is no video game character as cool as Frogger! Heck, he eats fly for breakfast... And trying to cross a busy road without losing his froggy life? Ooh! Talk about ribbiting."
Not saying LilyPaddton's got the hots for the Frogger frog, but... LilyPaddton's got the hots for the Frogger Frog.
Remus, nervous: Hey, uh... I drew Thomas...
Drawing: Non-creepy, realistic, black and white portrait of Thomas
Patton, eyes lighting up: Oh my goodness, kiddo, that's so good! You're a really talented artist!
Logan: You drew that? It's really good.
Thomas, pointing at it excitedly: That's me! That's so good! Oh my god
Janus: That's very impressive. You should be proud.
Virgil: Yeah, that's really good, dude. *kinda awkward but supportive thumbs-up*
Remus, eyes full of tears, turning to Roman: *whisper* Is this what it's like?
Roman: *solemnly sets hand on his shoulder*
Roman: Welcome to the 'I'm-Going-To-Keep-Creating-To-Chase-This-High-I-Get-From-Praise' Club.
Remus: Who else is in it?
Roman: All creators that crave validation. So... A helluva lot of people.
Conversation: Turns to Harry Potter
Patton: Hey Logan, what house do you think I would be in?
Logan: Oh well I'd say Hufflepuff
Patton: Why?
Logan, confused that he asked for elaboration: Well, Hufflepuffs are known for being friendly and loyal and liking a sense of community and family... Also your need to follow morals exactly and get confused because you don't know what morally right sometimes seems the most Hufflepuff to me...
Patton: Oh, that makes sense
Roman: What house would I be?
Logan, realizing they actually want to hear him rant about his hyperfixation, lighting up: Well—
Today on Things I Know Because Of Thomas Sanders:
My family: *Discussing berries*
My dad: Isn't a marionberry a cross between a loganberry and a blackberry?
Me: That sounds redundant, considering a loganberry is already a cross between a blackberry and a raspberry...
Them: What? Did you look that up?
Me: No I already knew that
Them: *doubt*
My brother: *looks it up* Nah he's right
Them: *surprise*
Them: How'd you know that?
Me, out loud: Eh just a random fact I know
Me, internally: 'Cuz Crofters is the only jelly—
So thank you @thatsthat24 , I looked smart in front of my extended family today because of one of the many things Logan taught me :D
Bonus
Remus: *drinks straight out of the bottle*
Remus: So that's what that tastes like
Remus: *turns to Janus*
Remus: Can I compare it to the taste of yellow?
Janus: *blank look, not giving him the satisfaction*
Logan: *falls down, laughing harder*
Janus: *checks Limoncello bottle*
Janus: The only ingredient here is FD & C Yellow #5
Logan: They don't put alcohol on the ingredients list.
Janus: It doesn't even say there's lemon.
Logan: The lemon was likely brewed with the alcohol.
Janus: *sips Limoncello*
Janus: *wrinkles nose*
Janus: It certainly tastes like yellow.
Logan: *dies laughing*
Janus: *checks Limoncello bottle*
Janus: The only ingredient here is FD & C Yellow #5
Logan: They don't put alcohol on the ingredients list.
Janus: It doesn't even say there's lemon.
Logan: The lemon was likely brewed with the alcohol.
Janus: *sips Limoncello*
Janus: *wrinkles nose*
Janus: It certainly tastes like yellow.
Logan: *dies laughing*
Supposed To Be A Family (Moceit)
Description:
The six sides were supposed to be a family. They were supposed to disregard the labels 'light' and 'dark' and be one group of people.
For a while, they were. Then a fallout happened between two sides, and they were divided.
Can they move past it? Can they become a family again? Can they finally reunite their 'Mama' and 'Dad,' who raised the rest of them?
(My first tss fic go easy on me! It's really short)
Thomas: *peacefully drawing*
Remus: Hey haha what if you like... Violently jerked your pen to the side
Thomas: ...Why?
Remus: Idk man it'd be fun just whoosh y'know
Remus: Like you could do it right now nothing's stopping you
Thomas: ...
Thomas: *violently jerks pen to the side*
Drawing: *is ruined*
Thomas:
Remus:
Remus: Yikes that wasn't a good idea was it
Thomas: Nope.
(Source: I just did this, rip my drawing of Patton lmao)
Remus: Why do they call it the birds and the bees when talking about procreation between people? Birds and bees aren't mammals. They're nothing like people. Do you know how a bird or bee reproduces? I just know they both lay eggs. So like, what?
Logan: *scoff* They call it—
Logan: They call it...
Logan: WAIT HANG ON
'Daydream Mode' is when Roman has full creative control, right? So I'm just imagining like:
Remus, ranting to Janus: —as long as their beak fits through, the entire rest of them, because that's the only solid part, can squish through—
Remus: *suddenly collapses without warning*
Janus, flipping the page of his book unconcernedly: Someone must have turned on Daydream mode.
Just kicked my brother's ass in Wii sports boxing, which was funny because my Mii is Patton, so new headcanon: Patton is super good at boxing but just hasn't mentioned it to the other sides until somehow Roman ropes him in to boxing with him and Patton just knocks him tf out
Me, baking anything: For Patton
Me, taking my meds and drinking water: For Janus
Me, making art and writing creatively: For Roman
Me, removing myself from stressful situations and listening to music: For Virgil
Me, reading and learning about new things: For Logan
Me, sharing random and strange facts with my loved ones as a sign of affection: For Remus
Me, managing to be a functioning person: For Thomas
Side Theory
Thomas said he's 'all rainbow, all the time,' and we used that as a basis for the orange and green side theories before Remus was revealed and orange was pretty much confirmed, right?
He said this as a joke with him being gay, right?
The gay pride flag is typically seen as just red/orange/yellow/green/blue/purple.
However, Thomas has Patton and Logan: the version with two shades of blue, light and dark. The one closer to the original.
And what's known as the original pride flag (Gilbert Baker's pride flag) itself had eight stripes. Pink/red/orange/yellow/green/blue/blue/purple.
May I introduce a new theory:
The Pink Side?
@ Sander Sides Fans:
Does this look like an accurate depiction of @thatsthat24 's filming setup? (It's for writing purposes I'm not a creep; I know it's not exactly to scale I more mean the placement of everything)
Tiktok fucking banned one of my favorite sander sides cosplayers (and accounts in general) and this WILL NOT FUCKING STAND
I stg if they don't unban them I'm deleting my account
I am not going to simp for a fanon adaptation of an aspect of Thomas Sander's personality, I am not going to simp for a fanon adaptation of an aspect of Thomas Sander's personality, I am not going to simp for a fanon adaptation of an aspect of Thomas Sander's personality, I am not going to simp for a fanon adaptation of an aspect of Thomas Sander's personality, I am not— FUCK I'M SIMPING FOR A FANON ADAPTATION OF AN ASPECT OF THOMAS SANDERS'S PERSONALITY
Nobody Asked, But If I Could Say One Thing To Each Of The Sides, They'd Be:
Roman: We appreciate you. Not everything you make has to be the work of Adam (Driver). It's okay to mess up. You aren't just Thomas's hero; you're the hero of a lot of fans too.
Orange: TBD. (Right now, 'Come out, come out, wherever you are!')
Janus: Thank you. Also, I think your name is awesome.
Remus: You aren't evil. You're just as important as the other sides.
Patton: It's okay to say 'I don't know.' You aren't supposed to have all the answers. You aren't letting anyone down.
Logan: I listen when you're talking, and I learn from you, and I know a lot of other fans do. You can show your emotions, we know you have them. We'll always take you seriously.
Virgil: We love you. You've never been the villain— you've always been looking out for Thomas's safety.
(I know some of them aren't really 'one thing' shh)
(I know Remus is as important as everyone else because @thatsthat24 doesn't make one-dimensional sides. All the sides are like onions: they have several layers and once they're revealed you usually start crying)
Has there ever been a bigger power move than Thomas pointing out immediately that Roman's sword is a katana before sword buffs called him out on it in the comments
I think if anyone finds the labels of light and dark absolutely meaningless, it's Logan and Janus, because they both know they all help Thomas equally, so I think they're most likely to befriend each other.
When Janus snatched away Logan with his cane and took his place, Logan had to know he was being impersonated, yet there was no sign of Logan attempting to stop him. 'Logan' also didn't return immediately, which leaves room for me to presume that they discussed it, but he returned quick enough, which leaves room for me to presume that they agreed on Janus taking his place.
These facts in mind, I would say they absolutely recognize this in each other, and as they both know there's no figurative 'cap' on affection the sides can receive, they support each other. If they receive praise from each other, it's mutually beneficial. (I also believe there's a reason that Dark Side!Logan and Loceit AUs are so common and easily supported by canon)
I chose to imagine them hanging out, talking about how the other sides have brushed them off/ignored them lately, and talking about their interests (for example, a conversation I had with a friend:
Them: [showing me their art, beginning to explain it because it's around the theme of a band they really like]
Them: And it— sorry, I should stop, people don't like it when I talk about it so much...
Me, internally: Tell me who said that and they'll pay
Me, externally: No no I want to hear it keep talking
and I feel like that's how it'd go with them)
And Remus! I feel like he's going to have a much bigger + irreplaceable role than shown so far. Like how Janus was introduced as 'Deceit,' but we learned he embodies self-preservation + self-care too. But for now, about his actions:
Roman is a Light Side. He is Good Creativity. He's Thomas's hero. He's literally a prince charming. Everybody loves him.
At least, that's how he's seen, right? We know he's actually got some self-esteem issues. But externally, he's perfect. Externally, 'the Duke and the Prince literally wear the black and the white.'
When Thomas's creativity 'split,' and Remus was created as the embodiment as Bad Creativity and the villain of the story, how everyone would see him was predetermined. He's the annoying one; the bad one; the one nobody wants around.
So that's what he made himself. He knew he couldn't get positive attention, so he made himself get the attention he could get: negative attention.
He's not just a kid screaming on an airplane. He's the sibling that's overshadowed by his brother, who's perfect. He's the kid who acts out to try to get the attention that his brother gets for being good.
Because if Remus acted 'good,' so what? Everyone else already does that. To get attention, he either has to somehow become 'better' than Roman, or be so much 'worse' that everyone takes note. (And this is super common in kids.)
This is my take on everything and this is very long and probably repetitive but if I am anything it is not succinct
Something Occurred To Me
So we all remember these scenes:
C!Thomas: You’re right, you’re right, you’re right, you’re right, you’re right, you’re right.
Logan: Well, now you're just pandering to my fondness for being told that I'm right.
-
C!Thomas: (sighs) You're right.
Janus: Oh, I'm sorry. Uh, what was that? I couldn't hear you.
C!Thomas: (louder) You're right.
Janus: AH! YES! Ha! It feels SO GOOD! SO GOOD! Aah...
And before you say 'praise kink,' hear me out:
Janus recently revealed himself to Thomas, and nobody else seems to like him. Remus might, it's undetermined, but Remus doesn't seem like the kind to tell anyone that they're right.
Logan, as we know, enjoys being called 'cool.' I doubt being called intelligent would have any effect on him; he knows, he's Logic, he has to be intelligent. And they seem to just either know he's saying facts or ignore him.
They're probably the least likely to be told that they're right. (Besides Remus but he seems to take it out by bothering everyone)
That might have been the first time anyone ever told Janus he was right. And don't get me started on how under-appreciated Logan is.
What if they both react this way because they don't get told they're right often/at all?
Like, whenever someone says they want to listen to me rant about one of my hyper fixations (a rare occurrence) I freak out and get really giddy and happy. Maybe it's the same way for them.
And yes, Logan's response wasn't very emotionally charged, but he either suppresses his emotions or doesn't show them as openly as the others. The last time he showed an emotion, he hit Roman in the eye with a crumpled vocabulary card.
So... Yeah. Just consider that. I don't know I never know how to end my rants in real life I usually just get interrupted before I can finish
Believe It Or Not, Deceit Is Good At His Job
Let's ignore that Janus is mostly self-preservation at this point rather than 'Deceit'
Everyone seems to think Janus is a really bad liar. For example: when he imitated Logan, he wore the wrong tie, said 'lies,' and used an idiom.
But then when Virgil showed up, he snapped at him for 'ruining his dramatic entrance.' He totally expected them to figure him out. He planned it, because he's too Extra to just show up as himself.
More proof:
Selfishness vs Selflessness redux. Nobody knew he'd replaced Logan until he told them. He had them completely fooled, as well as the majority of the viewers, I'm sure.
Selfishness vs Selflessness. Yeah, we all knew Patton was off, but how many of us actually figured out it wasn't Patton?
Virgil knew, because he knows both Patton and Janus seemingly well, but considering the Janus/Virgil dynamic, I am near certain he did that on purpose.
Would Patton have messed up referencing famous philosophers? Yes. Did Janus know that? Most likely. However, his knowledge impressed Logan, and Janus wanted the other sides to take his side. He probably figured if he got Logic on his side everyone else would follow but then realized how little they listen to Logic.
Every bit he did that wasn't exactly Patton-like, I am certain there was a clear, intentional reason behind it, even if it was just to annoy Virgil by letting him be even more sure it was actually Janus. 'Friendo'? Come on. Patton's literally the dad character. There's no way that wasn't intentional.
"Is C!Thomas capable of such deception?" you ask, because he is a bean.
Yes. No, C!Thomas doesn't lie on a regular basis or anything. But he. Is. An. Actor. Actors can lie. They can deceive.
Just because he only does it on the stage, doesn't mean his sides can't use that skill whenever. I also believe his skills in acting have a lot to do with Janus in addition to the Creativitwins but that's for another time
In conclusion: Janus can lie.
Something Occurred To Me
So we all remember these scenes:
C!Thomas: You’re right, you’re right, you’re right, you’re right, you’re right, you’re right.
Logan: Well, now you're just pandering to my fondness for being told that I'm right.
-
C!Thomas: (sighs) You're right.
Janus: Oh, I'm sorry. Uh, what was that? I couldn't hear you.
C!Thomas: (louder) You're right.
Janus: AH! YES! Ha! It feels SO GOOD! SO GOOD! Aah...
And before you say 'praise kink,' hear me out:
Janus recently revealed himself to Thomas, and nobody else seems to like him. Remus might, it's undetermined, but Remus doesn't seem like the kind to tell anyone that they're right.
Logan, as we know, enjoys being called 'cool.' I doubt being called intelligent would have any effect on him; he knows, he's Logic, he has to be intelligent. And they seem to just either know he's saying facts or ignore him.
They're probably the least likely to be told that they're right. (Besides Remus but he seems to take it out by bothering everyone)
That might have been the first time anyone ever told Janus he was right. And don't get me started on how under-appreciated Logan is.
What if they both react this way because they don't get told they're right often/at all?
Like, whenever someone says they want to listen to me rant about one of my hyper fixations (a rare occurrence) I freak out and get really giddy and happy. Maybe it's the same way for them.
And yes, Logan's response wasn't very emotionally charged, but he either suppresses his emotions or doesn't show them as openly as the others. The last time he showed an emotion, he hit Roman in the eye with a crumpled vocabulary card.
So... Yeah. Just consider that. I don't know I never know how to end my rants in real life I usually just get interrupted before I can finish
An Actual Logan Quote
(Virgil: All I'm saying is that you both suck at what you do and I'm tired of having to keep lighting fires under your butts.)
Logan: You what?! Do you have even the faintest idea how dangerous that is? I never even felt any heat! You're lucky that your acts of arson have seemingly settled themselves in the past, or you could have seriously hurt someone.
(This is seriously what he's saying when he and Roman are talking over each other—)