Seth Gordon - Blog Posts

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Seth is reposting questionable things from the afterlife

so I did this quiz and uhhh

what the fuck how

like I'm being fr how the fuck did I get seth gordon don't get me wrong I do like his character and I do think he deserved to live longer but like I rlly got the character that was doomed to die from the very start

i am going to fucking kill myself

(low key based on my answers i thought i might get seth so v interesting)

alright guys I will try and get some more elio sketches/drawings out by like tomorrow/tonight maybe as I'm gonna be kinda busy but I can still take my ipad places with me, low-key wish I had an apple pen now but I don't I do have my trusty stilius stylus idk how it's spelt so yeah that's legit what I used to do elios character sheet the more you know

(ive also recently got into cotl so wooo yay that's fun)

I will try and post like a snippit/ just a text lire post of elio's reaction to andrew gutting neil with a exy racquet.

some more little info is that elio dislikes exy, he knows it's important to Neil and so he just bears it, he sits on the benches at practise but hardly pays attention to the game.

(this is like au talk rn I think so like seth lives aus talk) if seth had lived than elio would have been babysat by seth and Allison whenever the monsters went to edens if elio didn't wanna tag along (that's like nontfc talk so like probably roughly some where in trk)

onto how elio and seth found out that the kid is obsessed with mac and cheese is basically where neil went to night practise but left elio at the dorm so the boy could sleep. however obviously elio couldn't sleep and so seth had gestured for him to follow him to the kitchen and just grabbed some things from the cupboard such as {instant ramen, kraft mac and cheese(or whatever mac and cheese), cereal} elio hadn't ever had mac and cheese that wasn't from like a cheap dinnor [dinner,dinnar] so he poked at the box and seth cooked the full box {idk why} he put some in one of those plastic kid bowls {it had racoons on it} and elio tried it and got like a look of awe on his face and just started to scarf it down, seth had to like drag the bowl away so he wouldn't choke because of quickly he was eating, he then proceed to write a small note reading "your kid likes kraft mac and cheese nearly ate the whole thing, cooked full box so leftovers in the fridge" and he stuck it to the fridge with a magnet

GUYS GUYS ELIO CHARCTER SHEET DROP WITH QUOTES AND SOME SMALL INFO [small info focus on tfc] I TOLD YALL I DONT LIE I GOT IT DONE LIKE 3 AND A HALF HOURS LATE BUT OH WELL [yes Ik his age changed but its math correct so he is four not six or five I'm such a damn liar but oh well] [if you saw thsi before on my account no you did not]

short info: like Neil, Elio’s documentation is fake however, like how Neil has a legal identity Elio had one for a few weeks before mary had a death certificate made for a Aurelio Nat Wesneski much to Abram’s dismay, when coach Wymack came to recruit Neil, Elio had went to wait in one of the stalls in the locker and heared people talking but decided to wait, when Andrew had hit Neil in the gut with the racquet Elio ended up coming out of the stall worried and angry at the blonde, Neil waited till after the others had left to scold Elio for coming out of hiding.

on the plan ride Elio had clung to Neil as he’s scared of planes, after arriving Elio isnt as quick as Neil at picking up the difference between the twins gets worried for himself no Neil when hearing germen, disliked staying at Womack’s due to Neil being worried, stayed with matt and seth instead of going to columbia but mainly stayed under the bed covers hidden, when Neil got back to the dorms Elio clung to him again, when Neil and Andrew made the deal Neil explained it to Elio when the seats got rearranged Elio curled up on Neils lap or sat on the floor right by Neils legs.

Elios favourite fox at the time became seth as the guy has knowledge of raising kids, and he had found out about Elios love for mac and cheese, he had also gifted Elio a racoon plush toy [yes I've given seth a slight character thing even tho it was basically only Allison and Elio seeing it as he was an ass to everyone else]

I don't need to think of this, I don't need to

hey hold on a sec. we talk about what baltimore was like for kevin, neil, andrew, but can we talk about wymack for a second. Can we just.

the year before the twins and nicky signed at psu, two of wymack's foxes, ian and kirk, died in a car crash.

the next year, kevin day broke his hand and went to wymack, the only person he thought would keep him safe.

the year after that, seth gordon, the only surving member of wymack's original lineup, overdosed after he was so nearly clean, and it almost destroyed allison.

months later, andrew was attacked in columbia and committed to easthaven. aaron killed someone. andrew was gone and the others came back shattered.

then neil claims to go home for the holidays, they don't hear from him all of christmas break, and on new years, neil calls him and asks wymack to pick him up from the airport. he's there instantly and god, he looks half-dead. neil sees the 4 tattoo and tries to cut it off his face. all he can say is that he didn't sign to the ravens.

then there's the blood in the locker room. wymack can't push away the feeling that something's getting closer, something is coming to hurt his foxes and there's nothing he can do to stop it.

then. the game at binghamton. neil looks on edge but wymack doesn't ask what's wrong. neil and andrew are above his paygrade. then the riot. he can't see any of his kids in the crush. he finally pulls them all out, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight–

neil's gone. neil's gone and they can't find him. andrew can't find him. neil got taken by someone. what was that like for david wymack? did it feel too familiar? did he look at his kids and think not again, i didn't lose another one again. does it ever scare him. does it terrify him. when aaron came back from the police station in columbia, twenty four hours in holding and he couldn't look wymack in the eye, did he think what if i can't save these kids? when andrew was lying in a hospital bed, too drugged to react, did he think what if i can't give them their second chance? when neil grabbed that knife, when he fell to pieces on wymack's kitchen floor, when he came back to them in baltimore, bloody and broken, did wymack think why am i always too late?

uhhh update on elio uhhh so elio was either born from 98-2000, (ik I keep changing the years but like I've seen people say neil went on the run at 8 which would mean elio wasn't even conseveied or he went on the run at 10 so really all I'm doing is just adding that neil is most likely 2 years older than elio, so the whole born in 98-99 thing is because that's what the fake birth certificate says that elio josten was in late September of 98 or 99 I haven't figured that out yet however I may elio actually have been born in late December of 2000 so elio is like 5 in tfc and then 6 post trk also elio is quite short for his age and no one really questions it cuz neil is short so.

also uhhh I'm still doing elios character sheet however I can say that elio does have a favourite fox and uhh it is/was seth so wooo guys seth gets a small character arc of accepting a kid dorming with him and than becoming attached to said kid so yay

feel free to send in asks for this if you wish 2

💭 AFTG Ask Game 🥍

I wanted to create an ask game because i like seeing people's writing! Also wanted to focus on fan-work/ analysis of the series :3

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What team would you be on? Fox, Raven, Trojan (one of the others👀?) 

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so the new aftg oc is Neil's younger sibling they were about 2 years old when Mary took neil and them on the run (I say about 2 because neil was 10 when he and his mom went on the run in 98 and the unnamed oc (finding names is so fucking hard) was born somewhere between 96 and 97 so yeah, so as of the start of tfc the oc would be about 9-10 and then in tkm would be about 10-11 if that makes sense to people (I'm legit reading on timelines so that this makes sense from a fic point of view and like Mary died at 38 putting neil at 17 and the oc at like 8-9 depending on what month I have this kid born, I do have a drawing already done using a base/reference from mellon_soup so I will post that after I find a name for this kid, if you lot wanna give name recs you can

guys I finished the first book and I forgot half the one liners "rat bastard" is fucking amazing I'm gonna use that so much, the interview like oh my fucking god like fuck yeah read his ass neil you go boy, also god damn the ending I like/liked seth but god damn the reactions, Kevin's reaction is just perfect like he has priorities, Neil's reaction is just as great, Andrew just knowing it's riko's fault is fucking perfect like yes dude be your smart self, THE FUCKING KEY PART OMG EEHHH, I have this on 2x speed just cuz I can't handle the voices there to funny

also update on casey's character sheet type thing it's going good currently doing like a piece of casey and his older cousin it's kinda like an au as to what the au is about idk myself but feel free to send asks about casey and his lore that I will get fully written out but not post all of it just cuz he a mystery child.

i relate to seth gordon because i, too, laugh at the most inappropriate times

the real reason seth had to die wasn’t so that the team could all work together and make it to the finals, bc honestly i bet they could’ve done that with seth there. no, it’s because he was way too hetero

seth gordon spent all his college athlete years believing his team was worthless and would never amount to anything and he died with those same beliefs and i will never get over it

back on my bullshit

n e ways

do you want have headcannon for the foxes cursing habits/how they curse/ everyone’s fave curse word (this totally includes abbie and dadmack too btw)

ilysm, thank you for another ask!

ooo this is fun! (it got very long very fast hahah sorryyy). here’s what i’ve got for you:

(coarse language ahead, obviously)

dan mostly swears at people. by this, i mean she doesn’t usually swear if she stubs her toe or is running late, only if someone pisses her off

her favourite ones are asshole and motherfucker, but she’s also fond of dick

kevin isn’t picky with his swear words - he’ll use whatever gets the point across

however, he loves swearing in french, and his fave french curse is “putain à la merde”, which loosely translates to fucking shit

andrew opts for fuck and fuck you most of the time. in english, because he usually wants everyone to understand him if he swears

that said, he doesn’t often have to swear - his stare says it well enough

matt curses not only when he’s mad, but also when he gets excited (so basically, he swears a lot)

his faves are holy hell/fucking hell and frick frack crack-a-lack (bc of the looks the foxes give him when he says it)

aaron’s favourite english swear words are bullshit and moron, but he especially enjoys the casual german curse word “scheiße” and uses it very often

seth goes right for the throat. he’s not afraid to use the f slur or c*nt, especially around the foxes (two swear words that i’m nervous to even type out LMAO) 

in more public settings, he opts for jesus christ and shit

allison loves saying bitch/son of a bitch (bc people call her a bitch all the time so she just turns it around)

worth noting that she swears at inanimate objects more than at people - her curling iron when it burns her, her phone when she drops it, anything she bumps into, etc

nicky, like aaron, is fond of german curse words. his are generally more colourful though, since he learned more german slang and bc swear words are the first thing he got erik to teach him

in english, nicky likes kiss my ass and damn. he also enjoys making up random insults sometimes, like calling someone an untied shoelace or a stale piece of bread. medicated andrew found this very entertaining

renee doesn’t swear - she destroys people with condescension and passive-agressiveness

before she was born-again, she was fond of using fuck (twinning w andrew xoxo)

neil will use literally anything, in any language. typically he morphs his curses to fit whatever culture he’s currently immersed in. some examples:

america: fuck/fucker

britain: wanker and prick

france: merde, salope, and va te faire enculé (shit, bitch, and go fuck yourself)

germany: flachwischer and du fickfehler (~fuckiwit/motherfucker and you mistake*)

wymack always mixes it up. flying fuck, pain in my ass, what the absolute shit, goddamnit, etc. he doesn’t have a favourite; he likes them all

abby’s pretty tame, usually. her most frequently used are crap, what the hell, and christ. if she stubs her toe, she normally says frick. wymack thinks it’s adorable

*i don’t actually speak german, besides very basic beginner duolingo stuff, so those translations are just what i found on random websites

do you have any headcannons (andreil or otherwise) that are unpopular within the aftg fandom? and by unpopular i mean you haven’t seen them done/mentioned by anyone yet.

(also your posts are rlly cool, glad i stumbled upon your blog!!)

oh man, i love hc asks! i appreciate you giving me permission to let my mind run wild. and tysm, that’s really sweet!! 

(these are in no particular order. i haven’t seen any of them done before, but i also haven’t read all of the aftg hcs, so i apologize if there are any that you’ve already seen! CW: scars, bad family relationships... i think that’s it?)

kevin dog ears the pages of his books 

(he didn’t have any actual bookmarks at the nest and would rather just fold the pages than use a random scrap of paper)

in france, they greet by kissing each other on the cheeks (1-4 times, depending on the area). so, i propose that jeremy does his research and decides to greet jean at the airport with 2 “bises” (as is custom in marseilles). it’s second nature to jean, and he returns it without thinking. eventually that’s how all the trojans greet each other

bonus: the trojans greet the foxes like that at a match. most are confused, andrew stands off to the side and (understandably) refuses, nicky’s enthusiastic, and neil and allison reciprocate perfectly

the foxes write letters to each other when they no longer share dorms! especially neil, since he’s the worst at answering via technology

the letters include little doodles in the margins, pictures in the envelopes (mostly from dan), and other little things that can fit

all of the foxes have created spots designated for the letters

allison commissions a set of 10 custom garden gnomes that look like each teammate for all of the (og) foxes’ houses (and also wymack). while the reactions vary, everyone keeps them (some display them in their yards and some do not)

renee journals and presses flowers

allison reads classic poetry and novels

matt and dan get neil to paint lil fox paws around their house, wherever he wants to. they always smile when they see them

wymack has scars similar to andrew’s. he used to always wear long sleeves bc of it, but he covered them up with the flame tattoos and proudly displays his arms now

the foxes as a whole tend not to like rainy or snowy days bc bad weather = staying inside, which isn’t ideal when you have a horrible home environment (and for neil it meant running was harder)

they generally all end up in the same room on bad weather days, without planning it. no ones mentions the reason, but everyone feels a bit calmer with their found family around

neil and andrew start up a collection of black glass figurines in their home (like bee’s but opposite)

the foxes have a way easier time buying gifts for andreil once this collection is started, and it grows exponentially

neil doesn’t love ice cream but he has taken a liking for froyo

he doesn’t really care what he eats, but andrew notices that neil eats a lot more of it a lot faster, and fruit-flavoured froyo becomes neil’s usual frozen treat 

it’s also what caused him to experience his first brain freeze bc he’d never consumed a frozen food so fast before

i’m so sorry to any mobile users who have just gotten a wall of text

i hope this is sort of what you were looking for! aftg is on my mind 24/7 and this all flooded out LMAO

feel free to send me asks anytime! :)

this idea just randomly came to me and i can’t get it out of my head so: the foxes as texters (we already vaguely know some info but i have stuff i want to add on)

neil is just the worst texter ever. like... one word answers, bland messages, leaves you on read 99% of the time. normally reads the texts at least, but he doesn’t text first unless he needs something, and he doesn’t make an effort to keep the convo going. phone is always on silent but with vibrations - he hasn’t figured out how to turn it off vibrate, and he doesn’t care enough to ask for help (esp since his phone is normally dead anyway). he gets better at checking his phone and answering calls when andrew leaves psu though

andrew either answers within 2 seconds or never answers at all. autocap is off and he never uses punctuation (not even for questions). messages are usually short and to the point, but he’s fun to text if he actually deigns to answer. mix of dry humour, heavy sarcasm, and obscure messages that you can only understand by remembering 6 throwaway comments 

nicky is very enthusiastic!! lots of emojis, instant replies for all, only punctuation he uses are exclamation points and question marks. isn’t deterred by bland texters (re: neil) and will spam you with no regrets. also sends lots of pictures! and he never says “already seen it” when you send a meme that he’s seen before - he’s just happy when someone thinks of him

dan usually replies within a few hours. uses excessive amounts of question marks, and her texts are filled with abbreviations. autocap and autocorrect are off. sends memes constantly, never afraid to ask someone to meet up or to start a convo w someone she hasn’t talked to in a long time. sends a ton of short messages in a row rather than one big one. only uses periods if she’s mad or it’s important

matt’s texts have a ton of typos, even though autocap and autocorrect are both on - he mostly texts w capslock bc he gets easily excited. uses punctuation, but not at the end of texts. gets back as soon as he sees your message, but it could be a while, bc he always puts his phone on silent during practice and classes. uses cute emojis all the time

renee has autocap off but autocorrect on, and she uses proper punctuation. many :) type of emojis but rarely the actual face ones. takes a bit longer to answer bc she wants to formulate the right response, but she’s very quick to reply if it’s an emergency

allison doesn’t answer for hours, unless she actually likes you. always has a ton of unopened messages, and says she’ll get around to them eventually. texting style morphs from person to person - perfect punctuation w neil, no autocap or autocorrect w dan, enthusiactic w nicky, etc. won’t text first unless she likes you or has something important to say or ask for

kevin’s texts are very demanding. def has autocap and autocorrect on. not afraid to spam until you answer him. he’ll send a massive text and then a ton of short angry ones. texts people when he’s bored and drunk texts constantly (you could be getting a play-by-play of his fav exy moments, or an in-depth analysis of an important historical figure, or be completely roasted). he has french, english, and japanese keyboards, so sometimes his autocorrect gives you a multilingual message. sends memes to anyone that they remind him of or that he thinks will enjoy them, but hardly ever answers any memes or posts sent his way

aaron is the sweetest texter ever with katelyn, all cute emojis and smiley faces, but he’s pretty dry w basically anyone else. has fun texting w the monsters though, and he’ll never admit it, but he loves getting spam from nicky and memes from kevin. the only people he sends memes to are nicky and katelyn. the messages between him and andrew could all but be in a different language (and sometimes actually are in german) for how chaotic and obscure they are. he’s the type of person to open your message and then forget about it for a week before answering

seth is direct with his messages and you never know if he’s being sarcastic or just really mean. sends posts to allison all the time when they’re on, ghosts her when they’re off. short messages, but happy to help keep the conversation going if he likes you. no qualms about spamming you if you don’t answer. sappy drunk texts

if you made it through that... good job, this is just a dumping ground for my random thoughts lmaoo

aftg but every time the foxes travel anywhere, Medicated Andrew™ sings “the wheels on the bus” nonstop until he passes out

Re-reading TFC and came across this (ch 6)

THE FUCKING FORESHADOWING WTF

continuing this for the upperclassmen:

dan: depends on the shoes. in sneakers or boots, no. in heels, yes. i know what you’re thinking, she was stripper, she has hella experience in heels. and yes, but not with running in them. she can turn up on the dance floor and jump her heart out in heels but will tumble eventually if she tries to run

renee: no way in hell. rain or shine, heels, sneakers, flats, or fucking platform boots, this girl can drunk run without falling. and she is suchhhhh a drunk runner. she gets drunk and wants to run, less for the adventure like nicky and more just because something in her drunk mind tells her too. the instigator in her comes out a bit when she’s drunk and on top of being a drunk runner, she’s a drunk fighter. give her enough drinks and she will square up with any willing participant. and will demolish those dumb straight boys who challenge her to arm wrestle

matt: definitely falls. i’m sorry but he would try to run with nicky and they would both end up sprawled on the ground. i think he loses awareness of how long his legs are while drunk and it makes him fall if he tries to run

allison: again with the too much decorum to fall. she only goes out in heels, maybeeee platform boots if the world is upside down for a day but that requires renee to convince her so usually it’s just her and her heels. and she’s been walking in those since she was 10 and stealing them from her mother’s closet. no way she trips or twists an ankle much less falls in heels regardless of being drunk

seth: no siree. he is far to spiteful to not be the ultimate little shit while drunk and being able to successfully run lends itself to that. he also has far too much experience being intoxicated and some skills are acquired through practice

whether the monsters would fall while drunk running:

neil: absolutely not. that boy has been running since before he could walk and there is no way after all that running under so many kinds of pressure that he wouldn’t be able to handle drunken shenanigans

aaron: can run drunk surprisingly well but also will lose the ability to handle curbs or stairs and has tripped and ended up on the ground before

nicky: yes, 110% yes. definitely a drunk runner. cannot let him out of your sights bc he might decide to go on a little adventure and he largely overestimates his coordination and will be on the ground before he knows it

andrew: honestly i can’t imagine him running while drunk…….. but i don’t see him falling either. he has too much decorum

kevin: yes. less than nicky but yes and he will swear to you otherwise. you’d think after drinking so much he would have a better handle on things but there’s a reason he doesn’t dance and he only had practice controlling his speech and facial expressions while drunk

One of the cats that Andrew and Neil adopts turns out to be the reincarnation of Seth and it's the grumpist but always willing to fight Kevin any chance (Kevin can't figure out why and andriel is so busy snickering to even think on why the cat doesn't like Kevin)

edit: cat also adores allison when ever she comes over

Hello little mate 

Seth and Neil first meeting  

I was testing my pen at 3 am

love how nicky not only casually foreshadowed that somone's gonna get killed but specifically nominated seth to be the target

that's what you get for being homophobic

Kevin, leaning over Seth’s coffin: how could you do this to us, we’re so short staffed.

Please someone give me the link to all the extra aftg content (I’m desperate for the crumbs)

i’m finally finally reading the aftg extra content and

omg?? ive seen some people post about this before but reading it on my own is just another feeling like he was freaking out after neil got kidnapped and it hurts to read but also omg

Seth and Abby LMAO!!!

Me with the entirety of the AFTG series

you know how it is