While we get where you are coming from. It's a personal choice of whether a being wants to be referred to as a "person" or not.
Also about the aliens part, some wouldn't. Because to some "person/people" is human-centric.
We don't mind person/people to refer to most of us most of the time. But some of us do mind and some of us only mind sometimes. (This part might not make any sense, lol)
Once again, this is your own choice to be referred to as a person. But other beings might not like it. Honestly, just be respectful of others is our whole point here.
- Shay 🐾
This may just be me, but I don’t get alterhumans’ aversion to the term “people”.
Like, to me, personhood is not exclusive to humanity.
If sentient aliens came to our planet tomorrow, would we not consider them people?
Personhood to me is simply an effect of sentience.
If you can comprehend your own existence, you are a person.
Sure, that’s mostly humans, but I’m a dog who can comprehend my own existence, and I belive that makes me a person.
I am a nonhuman person, but a person nonetheless because I think, therefore I am
Thanks for answering!!
We haven't fully looked at the video yet but we wanted to respond a bit to the side note thing (also maybe the tags?).
Yeah google is very good for things, lol. We just mainly sent the ask cause we saw that you had said that you wanted some asks sent, lol.
We had some ASL classes (read: was in ASL 1 two times cause we aren't good with school and that includes college, lol). We would love to take more classes for ASL but we have a lot of difficulties with school and stuff so that seems like it might not happen.
While we might not be deaf (although we do have difficulties with hearing, lol), the reason we love ASL and learning it is that we have verbal shutdowns (others tend to refer to this kind of thing as "going nonverbal" but that's not really correct). So while ASL might not be our language or culture, to us it is more than just a "fun fact". [This was just us explaining, we aren't upset with you saying the thing about it being a fun fact].
Once again, thanks for answering our ask!
- Shay 🐾
Hello! We saw your "speak your language day" post.
We know a bit of ASL ourselves but would definitely love to learn more!
Do you know how to sign things like "plural" (as in the plurality community), "alterhuman", "nonhuman", and just stuff like that? We would love to learn if there are signs for some of our communities even though there probably isn't, lol.
If there aren't any signs for those, we would just love to learn different signs for (nonhuman) animals! Especially canines (wolves, dogs, jackals, etc.) and felines (cats, tigers, cheetahs, etc.)
- Shay 🐾
English:
I’m still a student so I’m not an ASL authority, remember that. But, for plural I would maybe sign like [listing things], or… depends on how many you feel, like [list 2] [list 3] [list 4] [list 5] personalities, or self, [multiple self]. Maybe, depends. For- I’ve seen human signed with the H handshape like [body] becomes [human] like [person] becomes [human]. So maybe with other signs added before, like [not human] or [other human]. Or [not human] [other human]. Like that. There’s not a lot of signs for specific identities like that. But for other animal signs, the sign for animal is [animal]. I don’t know a lot… like, I know dog, I know cat, but specific types…. Like, a lot is describing what it looks like. I don’t know if tiger sign exists already, it probably does, I would try signing it by explaining what it looks like. Like, orange cat, large with black stripes down it, like that. Yeah. I hope that helps. Bye!
(Side note: Not signed just adding something. If you’re curious about a sign, google is your friend. Lots of signs can be found online and signs can vary depending on the region. Some signs in the state I’m from are very different from signs elsewhere. Look online and if trying to communicate with deaf people in your area keep in mind that many signs can be localized! Just cause I sign something one way doesn’t mean a deaf person from your state is wrong for signing it another. Far from it! Understand the culture of your area, understand deaf culture, and remember, for you it may be a fun fact, for them it’s their language. Be aware and have fun signing!)
Rebloging to give slight "update" on this.
We are right now just making a yarn tail (also, is acrylic yarn good or bad?) Until we get the time, energy, and knowledge to go about trying to make a tail with our dog's fur.
We are thankful for all the suggestions and tips other beings gave us! But also, we are sort of "dumb" and don't necessarily understand some things in the suggestions and tips, lol. So we would appreciate it if any other beings can help us understand a bit better forthose tips and suggestions, lol.
- Shay 🐾
[If there are any mistakes in spelling and grammar, only correct us if you are doing it constructively, please].
Do any beings know how to go about making a tail and/or ears with brushed off fur from a dog? Or where to find information about that kind of thing? (We have a husky, and we want to use some of his fur to make at least a tail and maybe ears as well).
We are thinking about using the start of a yarn tail to add the fur to it (we also need fur safe dye cause our dog's fur is white and ours should be a kind of dark brown). Would this work?
We wanna make a tail cause we aren't really able to properly find an ethical tail seller [we are disabled, we aren't gonna go more into it], and we have heard that fake fur tails aren't really that great. We might just end up making just a yarn tail if we can't find a way to use our dog's fur for it. [Are yarn tails good for the environment and stuff?]
- Shay 🐾
SAYING "HUMAN" TAKES AWAY FROM WHAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN
There are plenty of beings that are not human or not fully human or not human "in the right way" (all of these fit under alterhuman) and they are not less than or bad for not being human. We are not human.
STOP USING HUMAN AND SIMILAR WORDS LIKE THIS PLEASE
(We are probably gonna end up deleting this reblog and just blocking this blog/account cause we don't want to deal with those who use human like this)
- Shay 🐾
Lots of thoughts recently. Everything feels plastic.
I could go on and on about why all that AI "art" is bad. I could mention theft, lack of creativity, it's impact on the work field and environment, but countless people have already said all that. I wanted to touch on something that to me is the most utterly wrong about all of it.
Art is more than just something pretty to look at or listen to. It's therapeutic. It's a form of communication. A tool for human connection. It's a pure, human need.
Support real artists ☀️
Ask game!
Put full question(s) in ask please.
- Shay 🐾
what term(s) do you prefer to be referred to as (otherkin, therian, nonhuman, etc.)?
what are you(r kintypes/theriotypes)?
most niche/obscure 'type?
what foods do you associate with your 'type(s)?
what colors do you associate with your 'type(s)?
do you own any gear? if so, what is it?
best/favorite thing about being nonhuman?
worst/least favorite thing about being nonhuman?
what activities help you connect with your 'type(s)?
do you associate any music with your 'type(s)? do you have a playlist?
do you collect anything besides wearable gear that you associate with your 'type(s), such as plushies or merch?
do your 'type(s) influence your sense of style or the way you dress?
would you consider yourself a furry? if so, do you have a fursona? is your fursona based on one of your 'type(s)?
draw or share your artwork of your 'type(s)?
this isnt a question but a request that you drink some water!
authors note: feel free to reblog! other beings can ask you questions from this list, or you can simply answer them all yourself.
Firstly, species dysphoria is definitely a thing, and it's a lot like gender dysphoria (coming from beings who have both).
Secondly, absolutely it fucking sucks when we see the "I am human" things. Like, nope, that's not true. None of us are human.
(We wrote most of this a while ago, lol)
- Shay 🐾
I know everyone in non/alterhuman community always makes jokes about these 'prove you're human' captchas (hell our host posted one the other day lmao) but I wonder, does anyone else get genuinely upset by these?
I don't mean the jokes btw, I mean the captcha itself
I know it's probably a really dumb thing to get upset over and the wording on a captcha doesn't mean a damn thing but still, it gets to me
Maybe that's just because I'm ahuman but it makes me upset to even think about having to 'prove I'm human' when I'm not
It makes me feel sick
I don't want to be seen as human, I don't want to be labeled as human, I don't want other people to call me human, I don't want to call myself human, I don't even want entertain the mere suggestion that I could be a human or anything similar to it
Again, I know that the wording on captchas don't mean shit, but I can't help that it makes me upset, it just does
I certainly don't wanna have to get upset every time I log into something online, it's exhausting
I guess it kinda gives a feeling of dysphoria? I dunno that's what our host Berri says, even he isn't sure though cause he only experiences gender dysphoria but I've heard species dysphoria is a thing so maybe that's what it is
Idk
I guess I kinda just wanna know that I'm not alone in this feeling, that I'm not just being worthlessly dramatic
We did!
And yeah, we get that. That's kinda also why we thought to ask if there was a word for the "human" version.
Thanks for the answer btw!!
- Shay 🐾
Theriform Adjective (can applied as a noun in certain phrasing, see examples)
From θηρίον (thēríon) [diminutive of θήρ thḗr, “wild beast”] and μορφή (morphe) ["shape"/"figure"/"look"].
A theriform animal is one which was born into a body that is typical/expected of it's species and observable as such by everyone, with species-typical levels of sapience/intelligence and whose behaviour is unaltered by being born into a human body/raised in a form perceived as human.
It is not the 'opposite' of therian despite similar etymology but is instead to be viewed as a complimentary term to therian, nonhuman, alterhuman, otherkin etc as it exists to specify certain details of a species whilst not invalidating the identities of those who are not theriform. It is made to replace potentially invalidating phrases like 'bio(logical) animal' or 'real animal'.
It is not an identity label and therefore has no flag or symbol and does not need one. Do not create these things please, or use the term to describe yourself on a personal level.
Alternative versions for non-animals could include: floraform, nat(ur)form, techform, fictoform, feyform, voidform, starform, divineform etc
"Lol it's so funny being a cat and having a theriform cat as a pet we're both just kitties vibing but with different body shapes."
"Just because they're the same species are you does not mean you are able to take care of wild theriforms."
"The fact that there aren't that many theriforms of my species is so saddening."
"I wanna do quads alongside a pack of theriform wolves so bad!"
"I am transspecies, here is what I do/what I want to do to look more theriform."
"I wonder if theriforms get species dysphoria?"
(Just a little note from us)
We don't hate humans or humanity. We do have a bit of a general distrust towards humans we don't really know [much like some of the theriform versions of the creatures we are].
We do have (probably) human friends. We have had human friends in past lives. As stated, we do not hate humans. However, we are very cautious around unknown humans, and that doesn't make us bad or anything.
Hell, most humans would be cautious around some of the theriforms of our "types" (wild canines, wild felines, dragons, etc). And we would not hold that against them.
Hopefully, this is not very off-topic of the original post. We are autistic and adhd so this might not be the place and time for this, and if it isn't, we very much apologize. We are mostly just thinking we would say this now because, at least in our head, it is slightly tied in with the original post. (None of this would be an excuse, just an explanation, btw).
- Shay 🐾 | Host of the WildPack and a wolf dog cat crow creature, lol
Where are my nonhumans and alterhumans that love humanity?? I feel like everyone in the alterhuman community suddenly hates humans and it’s pretty sad to see. A creatures existence is not inherently good or bad, that includes humans too.
Where are my creatures who enjoy being around humans? Have human friends? Where are my overhumans and humankins?
Sorry if we weren't clear. We are autistic and adhd so that affects literally everything, lol.
Anyways, we meant any "human" looking creature (so even those who are fully human). Not just alterhumans & nonhumans.
Theriform human actually works, lol. (Strikout cause original poster/creator of the term says it's not supposed to be used about humans)
(The next paragraph has religion, specifically christianity, talked about)
We know that humans are animals and aren't better than any creature, but every once in a while because of how we were raised in this life, we think of humans as "different" than most of beings. (We were raised Christian in this life, but we aren't Christian. A lot of Christians have the idea that humans aren't like other animals [this is based on our experiences with Christians, so don't come for us with the whole "not all Christians" thing]). Somehow, this kinda became a little bit of a vent about being raised Christian and shit, lol.
(We are gonna edit our original post, not getting rid of our dumbness but by using the strikeout thing)
- Shay 🐾
Theriform Adjective (can applied as a noun in certain phrasing, see examples)
From θηρίον (thēríon) [diminutive of θήρ thḗr, “wild beast”] and μορφή (morphe) ["shape"/"figure"/"look"].
A theriform animal is one which was born into a body that is typical/expected of it's species and observable as such by everyone, with species-typical levels of sapience/intelligence and whose behaviour is unaltered by being born into a human body/raised in a form perceived as human.
It is not the 'opposite' of therian despite similar etymology but is instead to be viewed as a complimentary term to therian, nonhuman, alterhuman, otherkin etc as it exists to specify certain details of a species whilst not invalidating the identities of those who are not theriform. It is made to replace potentially invalidating phrases like 'bio(logical) animal' or 'real animal'.
It is not an identity label and therefore has no flag or symbol and does not need one. Do not create these things please, or use the term to describe yourself on a personal level.
Alternative versions for non-animals could include: floraform, nat(ur)form, techform, fictoform, feyform, voidform, starform, divineform etc
"Lol it's so funny being a cat and having a theriform cat as a pet we're both just kitties vibing but with different body shapes."
"Just because they're the same species are you does not mean you are able to take care of wild theriforms."
"The fact that there aren't that many theriforms of my species is so saddening."
"I wanna do quads alongside a pack of theriform wolves so bad!"
"I am transspecies, here is what I do/what I want to do to look more theriform."
"I wonder if theriforms get species dysphoria?"
Gonna start using this for theriform animals (around those it is safe to) instead of the usual "real" or "biological" or other terms.
Hope strikeout doesn't mess with accessibility things. If it does, we are really sorry.
Also, question: What would the "human" version of this kinda thing be? Like a version to talk about being in a human body (or what appears to most as a human body) but maybe not being human? (Strikeout cause dumb question, lol)
- Shay 🐾
Theriform Adjective (can applied as a noun in certain phrasing, see examples)
From θηρίον (thēríon) [diminutive of θήρ thḗr, “wild beast”] and μορφή (morphe) ["shape"/"figure"/"look"].
A theriform animal is one which was born into a body that is typical/expected of it's species and observable as such by everyone, with species-typical levels of sapience/intelligence and whose behaviour is unaltered by being born into a human body/raised in a form perceived as human.
It is not the 'opposite' of therian despite similar etymology but is instead to be viewed as a complimentary term to therian, nonhuman, alterhuman, otherkin etc as it exists to specify certain details of a species whilst not invalidating the identities of those who are not theriform. It is made to replace potentially invalidating phrases like 'bio(logical) animal' or 'real animal'.
It is not an identity label and therefore has no flag or symbol and does not need one. Do not create these things please, or use the term to describe yourself on a personal level.
Alternative versions for non-animals could include: floraform, nat(ur)form, techform, fictoform, feyform, voidform, starform, divineform etc
"Lol it's so funny being a cat and having a theriform cat as a pet we're both just kitties vibing but with different body shapes."
"Just because they're the same species are you does not mean you are able to take care of wild theriforms."
"The fact that there aren't that many theriforms of my species is so saddening."
"I wanna do quads alongside a pack of theriform wolves so bad!"
"I am transspecies, here is what I do/what I want to do to look more theriform."
"I wonder if theriforms get species dysphoria?"
(Ignore how long this reply took to make)
Btw, in case you didn't realize, our post was not an "attack" or hate to you. We are also autistic (and adhd).
We get where you are coming from, and we once again mostly agree with you.
This is coming from beings that don't use therian or otherkin as our labels, btw. We mostly use nonhuman (as well as alterhuman and transspecies).
We also want body mods and social transition in more than just wearing "gear." (We can't get that yet, just as we can't get that with us being under the trans umbrella cause of our family). And we would love to see social transition talked about way more as well!
We just also wanted to point at that while species transition isn't all about gear, that it also can be about gear for some.
(We do, in a way, consider anything that affirms our gender and species "transitional" to us, although not everyone would. So clothes to us is a way to "transition").
Once again, no hate to op. Sorry if it ever came off that way.
- Shay 🐾
just to clarify species transition =/= buy a bunch of stuff off etsy or amazon.
Yeah! Send us asks!
Also, we are gonna add another question to this whole thing for us.
21. How does your plurality affect your alterhumanity?
Also, you can send other questions in our asks if you want!!
- Shay 🐾
Kintypes?
What do you prefer to call yourself (therian, otherkin, nonhuman, etc)
How did you find out you were alterhuman?
Favorite kintype?
Most recent kintype?
Least favorite kintype?
What are your reasonings for being alterhuman?
Do you wear gear? If so, what kind?
Any advice to new alterhumans?
What're some things you do to affirm your kintypes?
Strangest thing you do to affirm your kintypes?
What are your goals to affirm your kintypes?
Do you do quads?
Funniest way you found out a kintype?
How does being alterhuman affect your day to day life?
Does being alterhuman affect your religious beliefs?
Do your mental illnesses affect your view of your alterhumanness?
Does being alterhuman affect your gender?
What is your favorite thing about being alterhuman
What is your least favorite thing about being alterhuman
PS. I know not everyone resonates with the word kintype and I'm sorry for using it I just didn't know what other word to use
Reblogging this means that you want people to send you asks!
This is (mostly) true.
But also it can be gear. [Also, a reminder, technically, anything can be considered "gear".]
Like we find certain gear to be very species affirming/euphoric, and that doesn't make us any less nonhuman.
Species transition is very personal in a way, just as gender transition is. It's never gonna be a "one size fits all" kinda thing, and that's ok.
Transition how you want to. If that's just gear, that's great! If that's not any "gear," that's great! If it's a mix, that's great! It's your transition. Do what you want (as long as no one gets hurt, please).
- Shay 🐾
just to clarify species transition =/= buy a bunch of stuff off etsy or amazon.
Ok, first of all, our post was not an attack or hate to you. We even got where you were coming from.
Second of all, fuck that whole end paragraph.
We don't like using those terms just the same that we don't like using system to refer to us. They just don't feel right for us. We don't look down on or anything people who use any term that we don't.
We know that therians and otherkins aren't inherently human (although they can be, let's not forget the humans under the alterhuman umbrella). We would NEVER call someone human unless they say they are human.
Also, for the bisexual thing, there are multiple different multigender sexualities for a reason (pansexual, bisexual, polysexual, omnisexual, etc). Cause some don't prefer one of the other terms. There is nothing wrong with a preference for a term.
We like nonhuman and alterhuman better cause they are the ones that we would prefer to be called. There is nothing wrong with our preference, and if you think there is, then just block us.
- Shay 🐾
putting this on main actually;
it annoys me to death when folks say stuff like “i’m not a therian, im a [xyz animal]”
because hey that’s what a therian is!
to say you don’t identify as a therian because you just ARE that animal is to say that therians AREN’T really the animal they claim to be. which is so wrong. to say you don’t like the term therian because it’s ‘too human’ is so insensitive.
therians are not necessarily human! someone calling themself a therian in no way makes them human! equating therians with humans is weird!
stop treating us like we are human, stop trying to separate ‘really being an animal’ from being a therian. they are the same thing. you’re not superior or different to us because you “really are that animal”. we all are.
We are probably being very dumb right now, but what do you mean? (To Icky/ @leashme )
- Shay
putting this on main actually;
it annoys me to death when folks say stuff like “i’m not a therian, im a [xyz animal]”
because hey that’s what a therian is!
to say you don’t identify as a therian because you just ARE that animal is to say that therians AREN’T really the animal they claim to be. which is so wrong. to say you don’t like the term therian because it’s ‘too human’ is so insensitive.
therians are not necessarily human! someone calling themself a therian in no way makes them human! equating therians with humans is weird!
stop treating us like we are human, stop trying to separate ‘really being an animal’ from being a therian. they are the same thing. you’re not superior or different to us because you “really are that animal”. we all are.
This is a mood.
- Shay 🐾 & Shirley 🦮 (Shirley is literally a service dog, lol)
In a perfect world I would be a service dog -🦅🦮
We believe that tulpamancy requires intention.
However, there are many different types of plurality, and some aren't from intentional creation and also not from trauma.
From what we know, DID/OSDD/CDD (CDD means complex dissociative disorder) has to come from trauma. But those aren't the only ways to be plural.
We are plural that is partially traumagenic and partially endogenic (endogenic is just any plurality that isn't from trauma). [Also traumagenic doesn't always equal a CDD].
However, even though plurality can happen even without trying, you shouldn't be scared to cope how you want/need to.
- Shay 🐾
Hey, so don’t take this the wrong way, this is just a huge possibly irrational fear of mine that stems from like OCD and anxiety and it would be great if someone could tell me wether or not this is possible.
So I’m nonhuman and my identity is linked to my kin types. I have three: Cat, Fae, and linktype; Vulture.
They all bring a sense of comfort to me and all serve slightly different purposes. My Cat identity just brings general comfort and makes me feel more grounded. My Fae one brings me comfort specifically around humans, and my vulture one makes me feel shielded and protected, while also helping me deal with compulsive urges and whatnot (covering myself and blocking my view with my wings.)
A while back when I had discovered what tulpamancy was and wanted to try manifesting one for a while, before ultimately deciding against it since to me the cons outweighed the pros. Ever since then I’ve been pretty scared of like accidentally creating a tulpa.
So, my question….. Can I like. Accidentally. Manifest alters by doing this? Some of the manifestation methods I came across while researching tulpamancy seem scarily similar, and I don’t wanna accidentally give myself three different alters because I coped too fucking hard, it’s noisy enough up there💔.
I don’t know if tulpamancy requires intention and I don’t know how DD alters manifest aside from trauma throughout childhood and I really don’t wanna find out the hard way. Google isn’t saying much either.
We get what op means, but still, if beings don't like a term for themself/themselves, leave them be.
We personally don't use therian or otherkin for ourselves, the terms just don't click for us. Like, they technically fit, but we don't like to use them and would prefer others not to use them for us.
We much prefer alterhuman, nonhuman, or just being called our "types/kins."
We don't think we are "better" than those who use those terms. We just don't like the terms for us.
None of this is an "attack" or anything on op, just a little reminder that beings not liking specific terms for themself/themselves doesn't mean that they think that term is "less than".
- Shay 🐾
putting this on main actually;
it annoys me to death when folks say stuff like “i’m not a therian, im a [xyz animal]”
because hey that’s what a therian is!
to say you don’t identify as a therian because you just ARE that animal is to say that therians AREN’T really the animal they claim to be. which is so wrong. to say you don’t like the term therian because it’s ‘too human’ is so insensitive.
therians are not necessarily human! someone calling themself a therian in no way makes them human! equating therians with humans is weird!
stop treating us like we are human, stop trying to separate ‘really being an animal’ from being a therian. they are the same thing. you’re not superior or different to us because you “really are that animal”. we all are.
No real clue, lol.
How did we just notice the "wolfdog" because that's what I am, lol. But in terms of the dog part of me, I don't know my breed(s). [We had picked "something else" originally].
My packmate, Shirley, is multiple medium to big dog breeds. They can shift into any form they want to. Some of our other packmates are also wolfdogs, lol.
- Shay 🐾
Silly little poll cause we all love clicking on things and finding out percentages 😌
+ I'm curious
If you're dogkin, what is your dog 'type? (if you have several, pls select the one that's the strongest of your identities!)
I'm curious cause these are the breeds I see the most often, and I wanna know what kind of dogs y'all are 👀✨
I am Beta leaning. I have mentioned before that I am tridynamic, Alpha, Beta, and Omega, with Beta being my "main" one.
(This has been in our drafts for a while).
- Cyan 🩵 | RWBY "kin" of Shay
alpha leaning | beta leaning | omega leaning
Leaning flags based on our dynamic flags
a term for multidynamics (or anyone) who consider themself -leaning, or more of a/an then their other dynamics/any other dynamics.
Taglist: @omegarchive , @miscearchival , @radiomogai
It feels slightly weird to see others' "views" on the dynamics that are different from mine, lol.
Hope this makes sense.
It's just different and feels kinda weird, lol.
(We have had this in our drafts for a while now, lol. Finally, decided to post it).
- Cyan 🩵 | RWBY 'kin' of Shay (I really hate using "kin," although it is technically correct)
sorry but could you explain misceverse stuff to me? im curious to look into it more but when trying theres no guides or starting points, so any info on what it is, all the terms about orientations(?), scent stuff and how to know your scent stuff, and anything else you know? so sorry for the long ask but thank you for taking time if you do answer lmao
ill leave you some links here, the first one is a more general misce/omegaverse carrd but i personally find it a bit confusing, and the second one is @/omegai's personal misceverse which is my favourite one! :D
as for definitions, ill describe the main dynamics for you:
alpha: dominant, with instincts to care for and protect others. they are mistakenly seen as more masculine, though both males and females can be alphas. they experience ruts, and can get omegas pregnant no matter their agab. their scents are usually very strong (things like smoke, wood, saltwater...)
beta: neutral, with instincts to be mediators and help others. very social, usually seen as the middle man and the most clear-headed as they dont have mating cycles. their scents have a calming effect on every dynamic, and are usually more natural (i.e. pine, orange, mint...)
omega: submissive, with instincts to be cared for and protected, though they are also very good carers. they are mistakenly seen as more feminine, though both males and females can be omegas. they experience heats, and can get pregnant no matter their agab. their scents are usually very sweet (things like flowers, vanilla, coconut...)
all dynamics have nesting urges (though in omegas theyre stronger), and scenting instincts (though in alphas theyre stronger). all produce animalistic noises or "subvocals", though the sounds may vary between verses. the behaviours are set by the verse youre in: for example, i am a misceavian so my behaviours are based on birds, but a miscefelis will have more cat behaviours.
hope this helps, and sorry for the wait! i hope it was worth it :}
Genderqueer, trans masc enby (nonbinary), and novigender are all ones that we tend to use for all of us.
Novigender means a gender experience too hard to read/process/understand or too complex to pin down to one word.
- Shay
random poll time! i was curious about the gender distribution of the alterhuman community so i made this. please only answer if you are otherkin, therian, fictionkin, otherhearted, holothere, archetrope, plural, or any other label under the umbrella
(im very sorry about the lack of options, i hit the maximum which is 12. again, if you are not alterhuman please refrain from voting on the poll. thank you :])
We are both transgender (specifically genderqueer/enby) and nonhuman (and we actually would love to use the term transspecies more for ourselves, honestly [more so me than my fellow packmates]).
Transspecies beings are not taking anything away from (other) trans people.
People are gonna hate what they hate. If people really try to use transspecies beings as a reason to hate on transgender people, then they were never really supportive of trans people in the first place.
Remember, be yourself/yourselves as long as you're not hurting anyone!
- Shay 🐾 | The host, who always fronts, of the Wildlife Pack
I'm starting to realize my past views about the term "transpecies" don't align with my current morals and I'm kinda playing with the term. To anyone who uses the term, what are your thoughts about it? Why do you think it's an okay term to use or why not?
I've heard people call it offensive to trans people before but ive also heard that take is pitting two communities against eachother for no reason/one identity doesn't discredit another. I can't think of any actually good reasons against the term tbh. It feels like one of those things I heard about through people being like "have you heard some people call themselves trans species and want to become animals??" And out of fear of being ostracized myself agreed with other peoples views of it. Now I think that's a nothing argument and discredits peoples identities because they are "weird". To be honest, I think the only difference between being a therian/otherkin and transpecies is the label and people only disagree with the label because they are worried about trangender people being ostracized or seen as "just as weird" and transpecies people.
Picked nuance because of multiple reasons.
Firstly, we don't really use system for us [we use plural or pack mostly, lol].
Secondly, a lot of our sources (I am also gonna include my kins in this because yes) may seem "human" at first glance, but none of us have ever been human.
We all are nonhumans.
- Shay 🐾 | The host of the Wildlife Pack [which we commonly will just refer to as the Wild Pack]
survey!!
*if you have multiple fictives in your system answer for either whoever is fronting or whoever wants to answer
*if your source doesn't neatly fit into the nonhuman and human binary pick either what's closest or pick nuance
alterhuman = anyone who identifies as/is not entirely human, whether in full or in part
feel free to share your sources & identities in the replies/tags!!
Same here!!
If people are respectful and shit, they are more than welcome on our account/blog!
- Shay 🐾
putting this out there preemptively, my account is for sure a safe place for any alterhumans coming over from tiktok.
We decided to make some flags just for our plurality. While these flags are technically free to use, credit is actually required for these, as these flags are specifically made for us really.
We used browns and green-blues as those are colors that a lot of us have connections and stuff to.
- Shay 🐾
Made some nonhuman related flag(s).
We don't have a name for them as a term or anything. If anyone can think of a good name for it, then feel free to reblog with said name/term.
We do have a definition for what we want the flag(s) to mean.
The definition is: Beings that are nonhuman/not human fully, even when the body they are in is human. (This can be described in different ways).
We tried to kind of make it based a bit off of nature (greens and browns mainly).
- Shay (They/it) 🐾
Edit: These are free to use! Credit is appreciated but not required! Also, feel free to make alternative versions of these flags!
This body may be human but we aren't.
- Shay 🐾
a term used to describe a being who may appear as human, but is not.
a symbol i made for this term.
note that i did not come up with the term, just the symbol.
using the greek letter for H (heta) and P (pi) i combined the two. the symbol is called heta-pi and is written as ͰΠ
i came across this term, and i find it describes me as a physical nonhuman perfectly, as how my human appearance is a deceiving illusion to myself and others.
Absolutely feel this!!!
Although we ourselves aren't "physically" nonhuman. Sadly, this body is human, no matter how much we wish it weren't. Though we are fully nonhuman.
Many people probably wouldn't get the difference between the two, but for us, there is a difference no matter how small it might be. Honesty, the main difference is that we feel we aren't allowed to call ourselves one because of the fact that this body is human.
Physical nonhumans are very safe here, and they don't have to call themselves delusional or anything like that. If you are physically nonhuman, you are safe to fully be yourself on our blog. We would love to see more physical nonhumans around!!
It's sad that this is something we actually have to mention because, honestly, it should just be known and shit. It's sad that the distrust and fear of people who hurt others makes this required to be said so that people can know that they are safe here.
We aren't hurting anyone, so why can't we be ourselves?
Hopefully, one day, we can be free to be yourselves.
- Shay 🐾
I find myself often struggling with feelings of Misanthropy, they are to me not feelings I particularly like. I know where they come from and why they exist, and even though I do not like them, I understand where they come from and that it is not unreasonable for me to have them. (Continued below the break - Length: 2078 words)
I find that often the community has this push against misanthropy and for particular positivity of humans and humanity, even to the point of shaming those of us who have those feelings including from trauma and hurt. I have a couple friends on here who have expressed either in general or to me that feeling that they have to hide those feelings or worry I will react badly to it. I feel it myself worrying about expressing particular anger for things done to me.
I do think there are multiple types and levels of misanthropy, and it seems likely we are using the same word for different experiences, and perhaps I am using this word wrong. I had discussed this topic after some back and forth with Rani on the subject and determined that we were more or less talking about different aspects of the same word but maybe there is another word that better describes my own relationship with humanity.
There is that misanthropy that seems to take the form of ecofascism, of humans being a virus or particularly evil or destructive. There is misanthropy that takes the form mainly of a belief in superiority in themselves over the humans for various justifications. There is the misanthropy that stems largely from hurt from the actions of humans to the individual themselves that seems to come as fear and distrust and discontentment towards them. I am certain there is a lot of other varieties and there can be crossover between them.
I do not think humans are inherently evil or even uniquely destructive beyond their numbers and intelligence. Heck the penis worm may have ended the Ediacaran. Nor do I think the bad things humans have done to myself, and others, is something inherent to them. Humans are a very communal species who only survived off their collaboration between each other and other animals, but now live in a very stressful environment that encourages individuality and often rewards cruelty. Painted Dogs similarly are very communal and cooperative animals in their packs but confined to captivity can kill each other. A similar story exists for orca as well especially during the earlier days of captivity. Nor do I believe myself superior to the humans. I do find these first two types of misanthropy rather frustrating, but still like my own experience, it seems mostly to come from hurt people, people who have been abused by humans with power over them, people who have been isolated from their communities. I do not think most people come to hating humans just from the blue. My companion for instance does often echo the humans are a cancer idea from their own pain. It is at times frustrating, but I understand at least where it comes from, all the pain within them.
For myself I experience the third type. I do not hate the humans, but I do not particularly like them. I fear them. I distrust them. For me, the humans are in charge, and I have to obey them. They control the food; they control where I live; they control what happens to me and how much I hurt. If I obey them then things will be better for me. I am allowed to live outside of a hospital because I have been good and obedient. I am allowed to have my own life because I have been good and obedient. The humans have hurt me, and they continue to hurt me.
One of the common retorts to this is that it isn't fair to humans to judge them all for the actions of a few. The problem is it is not just a few, and it is not something in the past, it is something ongoing still. I still have to take pills I do not want that keep my body in this human form to be able to live outside a hospital, and if I did not take them I would be put away again and forced still to take the pills, and every step I refused to comply would only result in greater restriction until I complied or could no longer resist. It is true though only a few humans hurt me directly, only a few humans twisted my body into this shape and only a few humans did everything that was done to me in hospitals. But how many humans work in those hospitals supporting those doctors? How many humans enforce the will of those doctors and hospitals? How many people support what was done to myself and others, think that it is right and best for us, or sometimes even a gift? How many people think that what was done to me was necessary? How many think it is just how things are, maybe it isn't great but it cannot be changed? Not all of these people are equally culpable certainly, but the number of people who support this system which hurts us is really very high and I see it constantly all the time, even in just the small jokes people make. While only a few humans hold immediate power over me, in every human, or creature that fills the role of a human, for me is fear, is a need that I must obey, for they have an incredible power over me to hurt me if I do not give them what they want, and that if they do hurt me, even if they broke the rules of their society, no human would ever help me. For me, complete submission to the demands of the humans (at least externally) is the only way for my continued existence and my presence to be tolerated, and the pain I am given to be minimised.
Do not think therians are excused or immune from this; many therians do the same to us as well. I do find many therians extremely human. I find often their concerns, their desires, and their biases are often very human just with a little bit more. I know a number of people have described therianthropy as essentially human+. Therianthropy is a pretty wide spectrum of experience, and it is not inherently wrong to be on the more human side of that experience, I am simply unable to relate to it, but because of the biases many of them carry, they often hurt those like me, and you reading this may perpetuate things that do hurt those like me.
I have never really felt welcome in the therian community despite being here for near a decade now. It was not until around two or three years ago I felt comfortable to call myself a therian. I have schizophrenia and clinical zoanthropy (often shortened to CLCZ here), or those are at least the humans’ explanations of what I experience/d. The community has for a long time not been good to zoanthropes. I have been unwelcome in a lot of communities and it was often made clear to me over and over my experience was not the same as theirs. In order to be tolerated generally it had to be a fairly accepting community, normally of older therians, but with the caveat that if I ever described my experience I would have to play down my experience. I would have to always reassure everyone that I knew I was experiencing a delusion, and that none of it was real, not like their experiences were. I have been continuously isolated from what is ostensibly my own community, and in a community of outsiders, still an outsider, at best merely tolerated at the edge, but still an interloper in -their- space. In an almost mirror of a phrase I see often from therians of “too human to be with animals, to animal to be among human,” I am too human to be among my kind, but still too animal for many therians.
Things have gotten a bit better in the past decade, and particularly so on tumblr of people becoming more open with things like physical non-humanity. I am happy to have joined here, for one the relative anonymity means I can sometimes talk back, sometimes try to fight just a little bit and be heard, but also for the connections I have made, particularly with Dune, Sonar, Xem and Ike. I am very happy to have met other CLCZs. I do not feel so alone, there are others like me out there, and there are others like me on here, others I can connect with finally.
Still despite this, discussions of us not being welcome come up often. Anytime physical non-humanity comes up it does often come to demonising CLCZs as insane, dangerous, or needing serious help. Similarly, too many therians seem very eager to throw CLCZs under the bus when it comes to justifying their existence, particularly to the broader public and anti-kin. For the most part I can avoid it, but still, it keeps popping up. Even among those who do defend us and accept us, there is still a price for us to be tolerated. Many times, the justification why CLCZs are acceptable (particularly in the context of discussions of P-shifters) is that we acknowledge our experiences as delusion and that it is important that we tag our posts with unreality and delusion. Some people will say that those tags do not mean that the experiences are not real they just do not occur in -Reality-. For me at least I read it that the price of being tolerated is still to say my experiences are not real, my past and the things done to me and others is not real. I am tired of having to deny my own experiences as genuine for the comfort of others, I am tired of having to double bookkeep in every aspect of my life, including the places that are supposed to be safe and an outlet for me. I know what the humans think of my condition, and for that matter many therians, but I think I will stop tagging my experience with unreality and delusion, because they are not. I often think to drop the label for myself for feeling unwelcome and instead just use zoanthrope, even if that does not accurately capture myself either as it is still a word given to us by the humans for a delusion, but at least it is my community where I am welcome.
The truth is though, I do not hate the humans. I desire very much reconciliation. Still, as I am being actively hurt by the humans how -can- there be any reconciliation? I am very fortunate to have a few therians and even a couple of humans in my life I can be pretty open with about my experience. I know reconciliation is possible, but even with these close humans and therians (who for me fill the role of a human), I feel that I must obey them to be tolerated, not for their own actions, but for the scars on me from the actions of many humans.
Someday I will return to the water – I cannot survive in the wild – and likely I will go into a tank. I hope, when I do, I will be with my other cetacean friends. The humans did do me a number of kindnesses and made me clever enough that I can more or less fix my body and return to the water. I think only once there can reconciliation begin, with the main point of obedience removed and the cruellest damage the humans did to me, that of being forced to be human. I know that life as a captive cetacean would not be perfect and would carry with it many struggles and pain, and I have no doubt the humans will still hurt me some, I do not expect that others will never hurt me again – I will still often have to obey the humans, but now more as a cetacean than a human. But at least back in the water I could be myself, from the water I could look up at the humans on the edge of the tank and know that I survived and I persisted and I am free. Perhaps I may even bond with some kind trainers. In time those deep scars across me will start to fade – and with it that anger, that fear, that distrust. Though those scars will never fully heal, they will begin to look like the scars on many other captive cetaceans and we -can- reconcile at last.
Zwem ver, zwem vrij, kleine walvis, zwem voor altijd
~Kala
Yeah, for some, it's harder to accept their identity and shit, but for some alterhumans and nonhumans (including therians) it is voluntary and/or easier to accept their identity.
Let's not exclude them (not saying you were but mostly talking about in general, this post is just the best time and place to really say it).
Voluntary identities for alterhumans and nonhumans are just as valid as involuntary identities just as a reminder for everyone.
- Shay 🐾
I find the "all therians chose" antis funny.
I used to be one of you.
Trust me I wished everything but to be that way lmao.
It wasn't a process of waking up and going "therians aren't weird anymore, I pick fox!"
It was a process of heavy denial and slowly accepting my identity despite what I used to believe in.
We have an alter who is a dragon and used to just go by Dragon at first, lol.
It wanted a name that seemed dragon-like, and we looked up names that meant fire (you can put like any meaning you want or even look up something like "names relating to dragons"). Dragon is now going by Den because of two of the names we found that they liked but couldn't decide between, they both ended with "den" so that's how Den got its name.
Other than just giving the advice to look up names and shit, we don't have anything else to say.
Hope this helps at least a little bit.
- Shay (They/it) 🐾
- Den (It/they) 🐲 | Only talked about, Den doesn't really post
how do i name myself in a way that gives me dragon euphoria help
i don't resonate as much with the name luca now. i kind of like the names jasper and malachite but that might just be steven universe propaganda lmaoo. there's some others i like too that im less sure of
doing name tryouts and stuff
non dragons can answer this too. HOW do you name yourself in a way that gives you creature euphoria ??
maybe i'll decide i actually do want to be called luca. maybe i'll decide idc